Multitabling Limit vs. Multitabling No-Limit...thoughts?
 

Over the last 6 months I have been multitabling 1/2 limit, then moving up to multi 2/4 limit. I have had a lot of success playing 4 tables at a time. With limit all of my decisions are made easier by know that I can only lose one small or big bet. This makes multitabling limit pretty easy, as it is kind of robotic.

Now then, I wanting to move over to the NL side of things. While I have multied NL (25) for over 5,000 hands for a profit, it is still a lot different than limit. Playing 4 tables of NL can be a bit much at times if you are in hands on 2 or 3 tables.

Basically I am just wanting to get thoughts on multitabling no-limit, and see if anyone has any tips. Thanks.

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after 75k hands of limit I was able to 5table without feeling like i couldn't keep it/was missing reads etc

after 20k hands nl i can 8table easily... a betpot script (allowing you to make all bets with your mouse) helps a lot though

general consensus is that multitabling NL is easier than multitabling limit (less decisions/hand), afaik sethypooh is the only player in the 2+2 limit forums that plays 8 tables or more while that seems to be standard for NL

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I agree with NL multitabling being easier than NL multitabling. Especially 6max.

According to 2p2 accepted knowledge you have to play at least 25/16 in lhe 6max to be profitable, and many of the good regulars say that 30/20 is optimal.

In NL 6max you can play anywhere from 15/12 to whatever for a good winrate, so you play less hands. In NL you also tend to fold much more on the flop (or somebody folds to your flop bet), so that really cuts into your decisions.

So in essence, NL is fewer hands with fewer but bigger decisions. The action also goes much faster in LHE (more hands pr hour).

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I agree with NL multitabling being easier than NL multitabling.

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huh?

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i think he was saying multitabling NL is easier than LHE?

i used to do 5 lhe (only 4 while on wsex) but it sometimes got hectic theres alot of decisions while in NL its mostly simple preflop and flop decisions with occasionally a real decision thrown in. But like with lhe u have to get comfortable, I started with 4 or 5 for a week then 6 then 7 or 8 now 9 or 10 i ll play but sometimes that gets hectic but the time button makes everything fine it seems.

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Different beasts. As far as the mechanics, NL is far easier to multitable simply because you have so many fewer decisions to make - you're probably playing ~10% fewer hands (I play about 29/21 LHE 6max and about 21/19 NLHE 6 max). Additionally, you tend to have so many fewer decisions per hand that you do play.

HOWEVER, I find that there are far fewer 'tough' decisions in LHE - or if the decision is tough it's so close to neutral EV that it doesn't matter much. The cost of a mistake in NLHE is so much more that not getting the reads from observing your opponents in hands you don't play hurts. At NL100-200, this doesn't matter much, I suppose, but I'm guessing that higher than that, playing 'blind' by playing more than about 4-6 tables is going to get you in a lot of trouble,

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I play FR, and multi-tabling FR NL is a breeze. I'm running 16/9 and crushing the tables.

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NL multitabling is a lot easier because the hand is over preflop or on the flop waaay more times. Even when I 8-10 tabling I am rarely actually playing more than 3 hands even when running at 22/18 or whatever generic TAG I run at.

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Okay, the main reason I was wondering is for reads. It seems harder to get reads for those big decisions in NL.

Also, I just picked up the new PNL book and I am about half thru it. I don't think I could ever think about some of the stuff they talk about playing more than 2 tables of NL. Of course, it may become easier to grasp as I finish the book and get some more NL experience.

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I think limit is easier because you don't have to worry about bet sizing. Having to stop and type in a dollar amount is a pain in the ass, whereas in limit you just push the raise button and all your work is done.

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chopchoi,

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a betpot script (allowing you to make all bets with your mouse) helps a lot though

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there is one for almost every major poker site, you might want to check the software forum

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Okay, the main reason I was wondering is for reads. It seems harder to get reads for those big decisions in NL.

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This kinda gets into a whole other area that I have been thinking about, maybe it deserves it's own thread, but...

It seems to me that in Limit a read is an invaluable tool, but in NL it is absolutely crucial. Am I kinda on the right track?

So on that note when it comes to multitabling how do you keep up on reads on every table (this really applies to NLers and Limiters)? Or what do you do if you're up against an odd line or push in NL and you have little or no read on your opponent. In limit it's always just one or two bets to call, but it's never like this in NL. This almost always puts me in the tank so I could really use some help here. (My question might be too vague, but hopefully someone gets where I'm going)

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I was a limit convert too, back in the day. What I found was that a limit player who can't read hands very well can get by just fine and make a profit. A no-limit player who can't read hands very well will surely go broke.

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NL multitablers (wher in gets to above, say, 4 tables) get my on using a HUD, stats and maybe the odd not about exceptional play. Doing this still is profitable, but nbowhere near as profitable as playing a table and using reads properly.

The thing is, would you rather 1-table and maybe hit 10bb/100 if you're really good, or play 10 and get a steady 2bb+/100

(this is a oversimplified example, but frankly, I think you take the former if you really want to keep getting better at 1-table poker, and the latter to make money, and also to really grind into your head the default decisions that your style demands).

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I could barely play 3 tables of SSSHLHE but have no problems playing 4 tables of SHNL at 31/21. I tried to introduce some more tables, but I've realized that I'm going to really tighten up if I want to play more than 4 tables of NL, just because playing 31/21 at 6+ tables is just too many hands. But on the other hand, playing my natural aggressive style on fewer tables is going to pay off huge when I am able to move up, because 4 tabling isn't going to turn me into a robotic, predictable, exploitable player.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the tighter you are, the more tables you're going to be able to play because you're going to have to make fewer close decisions with marginal holdings.

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Nl is easier.... prelegislation i could do 10-12 easily on limit after leg i had to cut down to 6-8 and i still sucked and got lost. Nl I can do 10 again with no problem, even while i was learning.

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In my case, I won't be playing more than two shorthanded tables at the same time (with lesser money I used to play four and eight tables, especially liked doing that at Stars when it was still loose) and I think I in this case do better at NL than at limit as I can get relatively more profitable information by just two tabling. There are also more tables to choose from when playing NL (if one plays shorthanded. Just some 1/4 of the tables are limit tables and so - if one wants the better games - one needs to play two or more sites at the same time and mix that with all the trackers and drop some juicy games of NL at some random sites where the tracker doesn't generally work). This is even better when one is not from any banned states and countries, there being more good games around, especially at NL; more so shorthanded.

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I've had a few days vacation, spending a bit of it reading PNL, and you really need a period of time playing few tables, was 6-tabling (the limit of my screen, don't handle totally hidden tables well) FR NL10 and killing them, but I now I need quite a bit of time doing perhaps only 1-2 tables to adjust to looking at SPR with the great variety of stack sizes. I think it can become a second nature thing after a while. And then the benefit of SPR and commitment threshold kick in, because there will be far fewer tricky postflop decisions [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

EDIT: Forgot to mention, did happily 6 table LHE, 6-tabling NLHE is just as easy, unless you are trying to add new concepts to your game. Doubt that I will be more than 6-tabling NLHE, though.

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The problem with multi-tabling NL is that if you don't multi-table, it can be god-awfully boring, but if you do multi-table, it can be overload if you get involved in two or more hands at the same time. I definitely multi-table, mostly because I don't have a lot of time for poker any more, so I like to get as many hands in as I can, but I think I'm losing value on some hands because I'll get involved in 2 or 3 big hands and decide one is more important than the others, so I play on auto-pilot for the less important hands.

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Well, I glad this post has gotten some replies even though I hadn't been checking in on it. The new look of the website had thrown me off a bit, and I had forgot about this forum.

However, after reading PNL and the new STT book, I started playing a lot of STTs. I have played over 400 since I started this post. I ran hot, then cold, then got bored...so I keep coming back to wanting 50NL to be my main game.

However, after reading PNL it is like mind over load. There seems to be so much stuff to think about. I think I will play a few sessions of NL50 4-tabling and see how it goes.

I am seriously at a bad time in my poker career. I keep jumping from limit one month, then SNGs, then NL, then maybe some multis, then I'll dablle in O8, then back to SNGs, then back to NL.

I really have no clue what I want to play and it is frustrating the crap out of me.