New rules coming at FTP HU LHE
 

Hi Guys:

I've never been the type to post or talk much but this issue has motivated me. I found out from FullTilt today that they are releasing new rules and format for their heads up cash games as a result of all the complaints they are getting to customer support. They have stated that they are getting dozens of complaints from the same core group of people who continue to complain to support everyday. The same players squat at 4 games of the same limit. There becomes a turf war among the regulars on who gets all the tables. So instead of us working it out friendly among ourselves, we involve customer support.

Lets all be rational and work this out here. As a result of our own stupidity and stubborn attitudes(myself included), fulltilt is now going to take drastic measures.

Remember guys, heads up tables at fulltilt are not our birthright. Fulltilt may make new rules where we are each only allowed 1 table, let alone 1 table at each limit, they may raise rake, they may ELECT TO CLOSE THE HEADSUP ROOM! As we beg Stars to open heads up games, REMEMBER THESE ISSUES ARE WHY STARS WONT DOESNT HAVE HEADS UP IN THE FIRST PLACE.

My resolution
1) each player take only 1 table at EACH limit, if you have an opponent at that limit then open another table up, if you are playing 2 15/30 games at once, then open a 3rd 15/30 table, but only be squatting in 1 table at a time by yourself at each limit

2) If an opponent doesnt want to play you then move on. Lets not follow him table to table and have a turf war. Both players end up sending letters to support, amd WE BOTH LOSE. In real life the messenger usually gets shot.

3) If you have a problem with a another regular go to his table and TALK LIKE ADULTS and resolve the issue fairly. The more we involve support the more it will hurt all of us.

4) We are all being penny wise and dollar stupid. It is in all our best interest to solve the problems among ourselves and not rock the boat

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what?

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wow.

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resolution 1,2,3,4 are unenforceable

lol @ #3 TALK LIKE ADULTS and resolve the issue fairly

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OP did your mom drop you on your head as a young child? If not did she drop you on your head last week?

-Brendan

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OP did your mom drop you on your head as a young child? If not did she drop you on your head last week?

-Brendan

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LOL at Al being average.

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Lets all be rational and work this out here.

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Hello Crazy Mike,

Thank you for your response.

For obvious security reasons, we are unable to release the usernames of
the players you have offended. We do not want you to "know to not offend
them", we want you to treat all opponents with equal respect and
courtesy.

Crazy Mike, you are absolutely welcome to play at all 4 tables. The complaints
we have received basically state that you are not allowing other players
to play who they feel.

For example, if Jimmy123 is sitting at a table waiting for an opponent,
you will sit down. This is okay.

Jimmy123 elects not to play you and chooses to sit out. He then asks you
to leave as he wishes to play another opponent. You elect not to leave
because you want a game. This is not the most courteous action, but is
still ok.

Jimmy123 then moves to another table as you are not leaving his previous
table and is waiting for a new opponent. You then decide to follow
Jimmy123 to this table and wait once again for him to play. This is not
okay.

We realize that you are looking for a game and completely understand
this. Please realize though that we try to maintain an enjoyable and
courteous atmosphere for all our players. Preventing others from being
able to play, simply cause they wont play you, is clearly a problem.

There is no need to sit at all four tables if you are only engaged in
play on one of them. If you would like to play all four games, please do
so as follows:

- Sit down at one game.
- If you get an opponent, sit down at a 2nd game.
- Once you have an opponent on the 2nd table, you may sit down on the
3rd table.

Sitting at all of our tables does not give players any options in who
they are allowed to play. Often times, players have scheduled matches
and would like an open table, only to find you sitting at all 4 tables
without opponents. Once again, we simply want you to be courteous of
these players.

No action will be taken against your account at this point. Please
realize that further instances of this will result in playing privileges
temporarily revoked.

If there's anything else we can help you with, please feel free to ask.
Best of luck at the tables.

Regards,

Madison
Security and Fraud
Full Tilt Poker

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Hey Average Al,

I am a high stakes heads up full time player on Full tilt. I have been playing there daily for well over a year and have played for the past 5 years on various other sites.

The problem started with ONE player and ONE player only. THECOMPLAINER (aka MrGatorade)Before he showed up there was harmony amongst all the heads up players on Full tilt. We all had respect for each other and respected when a player said "No thank you.. don't wish to play you." There are several people who don't wish to play me. I don't sit at there tables demanding that they play. I don't follow them from table to table bullying them into playing me. Nor do any of the other regular players there.

As you can see from Crazy Mikes e mail from Full tilt , it seems they have finally taken our complaints to heart and have dealt with this in a reasonable manner.

Aside from dealing with THECOMPLAINER, they have added many more heads up tables which will also help keep the heads up siuation as harmonious as it was before this one player came in and decided to try adn ruin it for everyone.

I apprecaite your post and I apprecaite that The Fulltilt support team has found a solution to this issue without having to forgo the Heads up tables.

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Haha. Gatorade causing problems at a poker room??? No way.

Mr.Gatorade why are you such a turd??? Just play poker or quit and go and take up quilting at your local Senior Citizen Home or something.

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sal what is your id?

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dean ,

are you TB dean?? If so you know me.

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mr. gatorade,

FT's response to you seems surprisingly reasonable.

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mr. gatorade,

FT's response to you seems surprisingly reasonable considering that you're a [censored] loon.

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Well I am crazy and it is reasonable in my opinion what Full Tilt has asked me to do. The reason people got upset at the fact is many players simply don’t play me (Hit and run all the time though) and choose to sit out against me. That is fine except for 2 reasons that created conflict. The poster above silly sal enjoyed hitting and running on me so much that she would play me 1 hand usually win and then sit out and waiting to get booted and not give up the table (There was a max of 4 at that time) and this always pissed me off and of course her saying "Haha" and "you loser" always infuriates me a little and I followed her to every table and got hit and run on for days by her until she found it un profitable to play me one hand 172 times that she e-mailed support and then got the letter you see me posted above. The second reason for the conflict is I play ALL 4 tables at once and I believe I am the only one that is crazy enough to do that so other players got pissed that I would take up all the tables and not give them an opportunity to let someone come to there table and play them. My thought is that if you don’t play me and I play you I should be able to play as many tables as I can handle and full tilt agrees to this point but doesn’t want to piss off the other players so the people win in the case of the people vs. Crazy Mike. I absolutely hate hit and runners almost as much as I hate bots and this really pisses me off because there is nothing I can do about this fact then to not play them. Hit and running is unethical and extremely bad mannered in my opinion is I don’t believe I have ever hit and run on anyone ever in my recent memory. Its just so scummy and crappy and overall bad poker ethics. Enough on my tirade.

-Crazy Mike (MrGatorade)

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go back to mumbling about Dean being a bot you [censored] retard

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Its just so scummy and crappy and overall bad poker ethics.

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If you really want to discuss ethics, let's discuss how ethical it is to host a slanderous website that labels real people as bots.


Newsflash:

Nobody wants to play you because you just end up posting their name on your (slanderous and unethical) website.

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Crazy Mike,

I hate hit and runners, big time. Now, I have never hit and run you before but if you sat at my table, and i sat out, you asked me to move, then i moved, and you sat there too, i would hit and run you. I'd hit and run you on all 4 tables. Or starty typing binary code in the chat so i can get my account locked.

c'mon dude. you can't expect people to be nice to you if you're being a prick to them.

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Crazy Mike,

Your immaturity and ignorance are clearly obvious in your above post. You cannot stop running your mouth and that ultimatley is what gets you into trouble. I would imagine that you have been popped in the mouth a time or two in the past. You just cant stop running your mouth.

First off, ANY poker player who has HALF a brain knows there is no such a thing as "hit and run". It was one long session. You accuse EVERYBODY of being a hit and runner NO MATTER how long the session. If anybody leaves while they are ahead, in your eyes, they are a hit and runner. LOL. If they dont hit and run then they are a bot. You are so moronic and childish.

You have no idea who I am as a person so therefore you cannot make any assumptions on my character. Calling me unethical is slanderous and if you continue to spew your nonsense in a public forum be prepared to face the consequences.

Clearly from the tone of the reponses here, you are not held in high regard. That, MrGAtorade is of your own doing. You continue to show by your uneducated rants, what a complete imbecile you are.

But please do continue with your rants and tirades. Go ahead and hang yourself with your own words. Clearly reason and sanity will overrule you at every turn.

It was your actions that caused such an uproar at Fulltilt. Not mine. If you think that I was the only person who complained about your selfish behaviour you are clearly mistaken. Truth and honor always rule out, MRGaotrade. As long as you continue to follow a path other then this, you will beaten down.

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Yea, though I walk though the valley of the shadow of bots, I will fear no hit and runs.

QL

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