I have T$22 on Stars and a $0.10 bankroll: What\'s my play?
 

I currently have a $0 online bankroll and I'm thinking of trying to build one from nothing. I've turned my PokerStars FPP into T$22 (tournament dollars). I'm pretty decent at 1-table SNG's. I'd appreciate some input from 2+2'ers on this matter.

Should I target the $1 Hold'em SNG's?
How soft are the micro HORSE tourneys at Stars?
When/if I get a couple of bucks in my real money account, what rings games do I hit up?

Thanks to those who take this post seriously.

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DSs to the $215

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$1 NL SNG's
when you've got some cash after playing those, play the penny NL games, move up until Robusto!

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how do u FPP into T$?

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I will give you $21 for your $22T and then you can play whatever you want.

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The $1 + 0.10 sats to the Sunday 100 grand are really soft.

Of course, the only things you're actually r4 olled for are the $0.10 ($50 added) turbos, the daily $0.25 ($100 added - 12 minute levels), and the daily $0.50 (15 minute levels). The nice thing about these is that none of them have tourney fees.

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how do u FPP into T$?

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I won a couple of 70 FFP 1-table satellites to the Sunday $100K. I then "unregistered" and received $11 in tournament dollars in my account.

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I will give you $21 for your $22T and then you can play whatever you want.

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That's tempting. I'll think about it.

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When/if I get a couple of bucks in my real money account, what rings games do I hit up?

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Probably the easiest micro cash game to destroy is the penny PLO tables. If you know how to nut peddle PLO these are free money to build to a couple hundred dollars fast.

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The $1 + 0.10 sats to the Sunday 100 grand are really soft.

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That's pretty much what I did with the FPP's. Is there a cash equivalent?

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Of course, the only things you're actually r4 olled for are the $0.10 ($50 added) turbos, the daily $0.25 ($100 added - 12 minute levels), and the daily $0.50 (15 minute levels). The nice thing about these is that none of them have tourney fees.

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I think I'm allowed to play any tourney with the T$'s. I haven't fully registered yet, but I had the option when I checked it out.

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I will give you $21 for your $22T and then you can play whatever you want.

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That's tempting. I'll think about it.

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You could probably sell it for more on the T$/W$ thread in "MTT community" forum.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post10367146

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Yes, you can play any tourney you want with your T$.

But just selling the T$ to Nick-Zack or in the MTT-Comm forum saves you a lot of busy-work trying to convert them over to cash.

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That's pretty much what I did with the FPP's. Is there a cash equivalent?

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Yes, $1 and $2 tourneys. On the plus side, they're sats so they have less variance. On the minus side the fee is a big percentage of your bankroll. The other minus is that you'll only win more T$. But you can trade T$ for about 99.5 cents on the dollar at the thread I linked above.

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I think I'm allowed to play any tourney with the T$'s. I haven't fully registered yet, but I had the option when I checked it out.

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Yes, any tourney that costs cash $ to enter can be entered with T$.

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So any tourny money I'd win would end up being just T$ in my account?

Just wondering... Why would it benifit someone, like Nick-Zack, to buy them?

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So any tourny money I'd win would end up being just T$ in my account?


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No, if you enter a tourney (using T$) with cash prizes, u win real cash. If you enter a satelite tourney, win and unregester, you get T$.

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If you decide to sell your T$, I'll buy it for face value just to help you out.

If you don't sell it, I'd just play $1 SNGs - you'll eventually turn it into cash that way anyway.

$22 is actually a good roll for playing .02/.04 fixed limit games. I wouldn't suggest playing $1 SNGs or any of the no limit games with a $22 roll just because it's too easy to bust just from normal variance. 20 buyin SNG downswings and 10 buyin no-limit ring downswings do happen to players, even when they are better than their competition and are playing well. I'd def. stay away from MTTs. Variance is just too high in those.

I think a good start would be to check out some of the strategy forum FAQs. Most have some basic bankroll requirements. Find out what you are bankrolled for and play those games until you have enough to branch out / move up.

Good luck.

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Really? I, and this is just me, cannot fanthom myself playing .02/.04 (ugh! .04/hr!! you can make more going outside and looing for change on the streets for ten minutes) or $1 sng. Just trade it for real cash and go robusto at .10/.25. Serioulsy, anything else is a complete waste of time and oppotunity cost.

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So any tourny money I'd win would end up being just T$ in my account?

Just wondering... Why would it benifit someone, like Nick-Zack, to buy them?

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I play SNG's all day long. In this case I am getting $1 free - weeeeee.

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OK. So how does one go about trading T$ for $? I hate to say it, but the .02/.04 game will be good practice for my local $3/6 B&M game (it's probably tighter [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].)

BTW, I appreciate all the constuctive comments.

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Wiggs73 offered to buy the T4 at face value....just PM him and I am sure he will tell you what to do.
It is very easy as Stars has an automated system.

GL!!!

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$1 HORSE tourneys = nice and soft if you know what you're doing.

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mused,

People play for different reasons. I doubt OP is playing poker for a supplementary income. If he is playing to learn the game, for fun, or to sharpen up for a b&m game, then nothing wrong with playing .02/.04.

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Mand, I am in the process of doing the same thing. I won a couple of the fpp tournys for T$'s. I then started playing the $1- two table sngs. Found them to be fairly easy, and I made a profit while converting my T$'s. Next, I started playing .01/.02 NL.

It's a slow grind, but def. worth the sense of accomplishment to start a roll out of nothing.

I think I am going to take the advice on here and start trying penny PLO to see what happens.

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$2 4-table hundred grand sats. 1st win play hundred grand and go for big score. Other wins add to T$. Repeat weekly.

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I think I am going to take the advice on here and start trying penny PLO to see what happens.

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My only advice is, don't try to get cute at these tables. If you try to play good all-round PLO you will dramatically increase your variance, which isn't really the idea when you're trying to build a roll from virtually nothing.

These tables are great because:

- players will under-bet the pot and therefore give you odds to draw to your nut hands.
- players will not clue into what is going on when three people are betting/calling on a 77Q flop (note to the obvious: you want the QQ here).
- most players have no concept of a freeroll
- so many think top 2 pair or bottom set is the nuts
- the few decent players don't stay down there for long

If you take advantage of these tendencies properly, most of your variance will be on the positive, rather than the negative side.

That said, be careful about buying in for the max (up to 250 BB, or $5 at a 0.01/0.02 table) until you have $50 or so. This is still Omaha, and so it's still pretty easy to run bad even down there.

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I read an article in BLUFF by Chris Ferguson, about how he is working on starting with $0 in freerolls and turning it into $10k, while practicing bankroll management. I decided to try something similar, the only difference is that I started with $20 to avoid the freeroll stage. I started with $1 SnG's and graduated to $2 then $5 and $6. Mostly in my freetime over the last couple of months I've turned this into about $160. As an added benefit, my tournament game has improved dramatically and I'm cashing regularly in local live events. It's been a fun and interesting process so far. GL

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Thanks again to all the replies. I think I'll do a little of both. I was crushing the low limit PLO games before the internet ban (and my cashing out). I think I might grind it out a bit for fun. Yeah, I'm not trying to turn a big score... My goal's just to get back up to $500 (my roll when I cashed out last year).

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These tables are great because:

- players will not clue into what is going on when three people are betting/calling on a 77Q flop (note to the obvious: you want the 77 here).


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FYP

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I'm in the same boat - $0.35 in my Stars account (because that's what I had left at Full Contact Poker when they merged), but ~14K FPP's from when I played there a lot before I had to cash everything out.

I just now finally won one of those shovefests otherwise known as the 70 FPP qualifier to the Sunday $100K. A couple more and I'll be checking out the threads where people buy T$ (T$ don't expire, do they?)

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These tables are great because:

- players will not clue into what is going on when three people are betting/calling on a 77Q flop (note to the obvious: you want the QQ here).


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FYP

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I made 5,5k out of $5 starting at 2ct/4ct (and knowing nothing about poker) and moving up when properly rolled. The low limit HORSE cashgames are a goldmine if you understand the games. If you are a winning player (and have the patience not to move up to fast), you should be able to build a roll from $22 with almost no risk of busting.

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just play the lowest stakes sngs they are so easy to cash in

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These tables are great because:

- players will not clue into what is going on when three people are betting/calling on a 77Q flop (note to the obvious: you want the QQ here).


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FYP

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Let's argue about this all day. If others are betting/calling, you want the 77. I'd rather that than have QQ and be up against AA and 77 trying to catch one out.

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These tables are great because:

- players will not clue into what is going on when three people are betting/calling on a 77Q flop (note to the obvious: you want the QQ here).


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FYP

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Let's argue about this all day. If others are betting/calling, you want the 77. I'd rather that than have QQ and be up against AA and 77 trying to catch one out.

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If you think this is the standard explanation for a 3-way pot on a loose Omaha table, you're very mistaken.

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The obvious answer is 4 $5.50 single table SNGs.

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$1 HORSE tourneys = nice and soft if you know what you're doing.

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Woo-hoo! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] I just thought I'd bump this post and brag that I've now doubled my original $22 stake. I now have $44!!! [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
It only took a few months, but it was fun.

The $1 HORSE tournaments are fun, but it takes a few hours to cash in them, but I like the variety. $.02/.04 HE gets old.

MM

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$1 HORSE tourneys = nice and soft if you know what you're doing.

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Woo-hoo! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] I just thought I'd bump this post and brag that I've now doubled my original $22 stake. I now have $44!!! [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
It only took a few months, but it was fun.

The $1 HORSE tournaments are fun, but it takes a few hours to cash in them, but I like the variety. $.02/.04 HE gets old.

MM

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lol. Congrats.

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Your play is to get a job [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Your play is to get a job [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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He asked what his play was over 3 months ago. Weren't you just whining a week or two ago in ATF about how the quality of these forums was deteriorating? Great to see you're doing your part to improve it...

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Your play is to get a job [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I do have a job. Why do you think it took me three months to earn $22??!!! My day job pays me more than my current win rate of 2/BB Hr which is about 20 cents for me right now.