AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

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Hero ($49.50)
UTG ($50)
MP ($32.55)
Button ($25.60)
SB ($26.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4.5</font>, MP calls $3.

Flop: ($8.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, MP calls $6.

Turn: ($20.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $10</font>, Hero???


Thoughts on how to best play Turn please...

Re: AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

i'm torn between b/f and c/f.. but either way.. fold

Re: AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

yeah, the more i think about it, i like a b/f

your check is allowing him to bluff at that pot and you don't know if you're laying down the best hand

Re: AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

b/f? Just b/c all-in, easily.

Re: AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

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b/f? Just b/c all-in, easily.

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I HAS ACES

NOOO THEY BE STEALIN MY ACES

Re: AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

I think you should have bet the turn, 3bet pot. Flush or straight draw on flop should be a little bit less of his range than middle pairs, AK, AQ, or w/e. He doesn't have much behind so I would bet like $12 and call shove. Move in on any non heart river, I'd reluctanly check-call a heart since he'd only have ~10 left. I'd expect him to fold the turn bet most of the time though.

As played I would move in here. He's got $12 left and almost has to call with anything here except total air.

Re: AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

He has 30$ stack and has like one pot size bet left... There's no reason to put villain for a flush as he most often doesn't have one so just bet and get his stack. Bet/folding here is atrocious and check/folding is weaaaak and he can bet so many worse hands here even for value.

Re: AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

My thinking on checking was I didn't want to commit myself with that board. And there are other possibilities beyond a flush, such as sets

What do you think would be a good bet size? 3/4 pot and I'm pretty much committed...

Re: AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

yeah, i probably did give him too much credit for a flush

my thought on checking is that he would likely check after if he didn't have a flush with that board. or should i not assume this?

Re: AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

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my thought on checking is that he would likely check after if he didn't have a flush with that board. or should i not assume this?

[/ QUOTE ]I would think most players are betting JT+, 88+ with one heart, or AK/AQ with one when you check. Assuming you c-bet here a whole lot and end up c/fing turn when called, I don't think many players are checking behind. It's pretty obvious that you are worried about the heart so he should be betting here.

Re: AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

you played it like you had AK...
I believe that without reads, his range can be pretty wide here.
I call the turn, cf a heart river, and shove everything else.

Re: AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

I'm also betting the turn. There are plenty of other hands that you beat here, I don't see why you should be so scared of the flush. If you want to get tricky, you might even check the turn with the intention of pushing if he bets. Just give him the opportunity to bluff at the pot, but either way I don't think I'm folding.

Re: AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

SHOVE and if you are beat re-load and be thankful villain was a short stacked donkey...MAny hand are in his range here and you CAN NOT give this short stack a free card..

Re: AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

I hope and pray that you checked the turn for the ONLY reason being that you planned to induce a bluff from shorty so that you can crai, right?

If not, checking the turn here is pretty wretched. Props to Shaq for being the first to answer and putting his neck out there, but I strongly disagree w/ his fold sentiment. It's a 3bet pot and villain is a monkey. If he has some BS flush, so be it. Reload and you'll get it back eventually, with interest.

Just because the scare card comes does NOT mean we let off the pedal. If we do, it allows villain/monkey to bluff us off the better hand FAR too often. Please learn from this.

GOOD LUCK!!!

Re: AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

i guess its bad that i c/f here pretty often then, though im not at 50NL, at 10NL. every draw got there

Re: AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

and i get minraised 80% of the time i bet there. id rather see a cheap showdown

Re: AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

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i guess its bad that i c/f here pretty often then, though im not at 50NL, at 10NL. every draw got there

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The main question I have for you is what do you think he called the 3 bet with?

Re: AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

about anything that he wuold raise with

Re: AA no hearts against three hearts on turn, opponent bets 1/2 pot
 

Yeah, checking the turn here is horrible imo.. Ur basically telling ur opponent that ur scared of the hearts and gives him a great opportunity to bluff it. Either fold or push as played, he's commited nonetheless... Maybe a fold is best as this hands played

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about anything that he wuold raise with

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why would you assume that this is the case? i hope it's not b/c you do.