Nl100, ZOMG a set
 

Guy was 25/15 seemed decent, also if your just gonna post a reply like "zomg you folded a set" please refrain unless you have content to back it up

Cake Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1.00/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $108.70
Hero: $100.69
CO: $114.35
Button: $116.42
SB: $64.45
BB: $100

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop:5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($16, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($16, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $2</font>, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $17.00</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $34</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($88, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $31.50</font>, Hero folds.

Re: Nl100, ZOMG a set
 

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Guy was 25/15 seemed decent, also if your just gonna post a reply like "zomg you folded a set" please refrain unless you have content to back it up

Cake Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1.00/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $108.70
Hero: $100.69
CO: $114.35
Button: $116.42
SB: $64.45
BB: $100

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop:5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($16, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($16, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $2</font>, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $17.00</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $34</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($88, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $31.50</font>, Hero folds.

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Its not that I can't believe you folded it but that you folded after calling the turn 3bet. At that point you are committed. You have to felt it. You are making a massive mistake by putting too much of your stack in before folding.

+EV

Re: Nl100, ZOMG a set
 

I was getting the odds to fill up on the turn, assuming he has A3 or 56s

Re: Nl100, ZOMG a set
 

I don't like that fold. I feel like the $2 on the turn was a pretty transparent block bet, you knew that and made it pot to take away a cheap card at a flush draw. He decided to try to draw out on you and called. The diamond didn't come on the river, but you checked. He knew the only way he could win the pot was to bet, so that is what he did.

I could be completely wrong of course, but I would have lead out half pot on any non-diamond, non-3 river. At the least, i would have check-called.

Edit: My first post and I misread the hand. I missed CO's raise on the turn. I push or fold turn. Probably push.

Re: Nl100, ZOMG a set
 

I feel honored to have your first post in my thread noob [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Re: Nl100, ZOMG a set
 

ya i agree, if you call that turn reraise, you're committing yourself to the river.

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I was getting the odds to fill up on the turn, assuming he has A3 or 56s

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The only hands that we are really worried about are also filling up if we do. That doesn't seem like great logic. If you think you will be ahead after you fill up then you should still be pushing or folding to the turn 3bet.

+EV

Edit: Just so you don't think I disregarded your whole post, the hands that you mention are not a large part of their range I don't think without specific reads that they are maniacs.

I am much more concerned about over sets. I think you get 3bet pf by AA-QQ and JJ-TT may just call. Other hands that just call are more likely to have hit a set like TT. I don't see the 3bet with middle pp's that didn't connect. However, I just don't put villain on 65s. Maybe A3.

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I could be completely wrong of course, but I would have lead out half pot on any non-diamond, non-3 river. At the least, i would have check-called.

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I actually like this alot

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I could be completely wrong of course, but I would have lead out half pot on any non-diamond, non-3 river. At the least, i would have check-called.

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I actually like this alot

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So bet fold the river? I don't hate that either but I think I prefer check call. Leading seems to give villain the chance to bluff raise us. The pot is big and worth fighting for.

The worst in my opinion is a bet/call since I think there is a strong chance this is going to get raised if we bet. I want to felt this hand. I call the river suck bet and yell at my dog if I was behind to 65s.

+EV

Re: Nl100, ZOMG a set
 

this guy seems terrible. monies in on turn please

as played id crai

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this guy seems terrible. monies in on turn please

as played id crai

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I agree the play seems bad, but OP's read was that he is decent. We have to play him as such.

+EV

Re: Nl100, ZOMG a set
 

but im saying he isnt based on his play here

a decent player wouldnt do this with ATC

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but im saying he isnt based on his play here

a decent player wouldnt do this with ATC

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Not sure what ATC is.

+Ev

Re: Nl100, ZOMG a set
 

any two cards

Re: Nl100, ZOMG a set
 

yeah sure villain could play 1010 this way but come on you're getting 4 to 1 on your call here!!!!

Re: Nl100, ZOMG a set
 

you can't call the turn and fold the river on a blank (unless you put him on a straight - which is very possible). as played, i call and hope for the best.

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I don't like that fold. I feel like the $2 on the turn was a pretty transparent block bet, you knew that and made it pot to take away a cheap card at a flush draw. He decided to try to draw out on you and called. The diamond didn't come on the river, but you checked. He knew the only way he could win the pot was to bet, so that is what he did.

I could be completely wrong of course, but I would have lead out half pot on any non-diamond, non-3 river. At the least, i would have check-called.

Edit: My first post and I misread the hand. I missed CO's raise on the turn. I push or fold turn. Probably push.

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This has to be a gimmick acount levelling.

Re: Nl100, ZOMG a set
 

this is awful.

awful awful awful fold.

he checked a set on the flop last to act vs 3 ppl?

maybe he has A3s, but not 63s......

im calling him down.

Re: Nl100, ZOMG a set
 

You do realize that by folding this you are putting him on a range of exactly one hand, right? Getting 4-1?

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I was getting the odds to fill up on the turn, assuming he has A3 or 56s

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I am much more concerned about over sets. I think you get 3bet pf by AA-QQ and JJ-TT may just call. Other hands that just call are more likely to have hit a set like TT. I don't see the 3bet with middle pp's that didn't connect. However, I just don't put villain on 65s. Maybe A3.


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The worst in my opinion is a bet/call since I think there is a strong chance this is going to get raised if we bet. I want to felt this hand. I call the river suck bet and yell at my dog if I was behind to 65s.


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Why are people talking about 65s?

Re: Nl100, ZOMG a set
 

Bet the flop.

Re: Nl100, ZOMG a set
 

you do realize that your set only has to be good here 20% of the time to make this call +EV?

that said, plz call.

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I don't like that fold. I feel like the $2 on the turn was a pretty transparent block bet, you knew that and made it pot to take away a cheap card at a flush draw. He decided to try to draw out on you and called. The diamond didn't come on the river, but you checked. He knew the only way he could win the pot was to bet, so that is what he did.

I could be completely wrong of course, but I would have lead out half pot on any non-diamond, non-3 river. At the least, i would have check-called.

Edit: My first post and I misread the hand. I missed CO's raise on the turn. I push or fold turn. Probably push.

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This has to be a gimmick acount levelling.

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What is gimmick account leveling? I've been reading the boards for a while, and finally decided to post. No more, no less.

However, I severely misread the hand initially. I didn't realize it was 4-way action on the turn, and missed the CO raise to $34. I think the only mistake you made here is not making up your mind on the turn. Once you saw the blinds folded, I think you have to push or fold in response to the CO minraise. To be honest, if I were playing the hand, I would have thought ZOMG I have a set and pushed the turn. Looking at the hand after the fact, it looks very fishy and I think you are behind. You came to that conclusion $17 late, but I think you saved some money. This line makes most since with an A3, but I guess CO could have decided to check a set on the flop since it was a rainbow flop.

Whatever though, I don't have time for this. I must focus my efforts on gimmick account leveling and world domination.

Re: Nl100, ZOMG a set
 

i will never ever ever ever fold this for $31 in this spot. (I hope I had the correct number of ever's in there.)

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Bet the flop.

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You only have to be good here 20% of the time- that alone makes it a call.