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WillyT 08-08-2007 09:31 PM

Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
So I just see on ESPN that the guy who caught the Bonds 756 homerun ball has to pay 35% taxes on the value of the ball...EVEN IF HE FECKING KEEPS IT!


Just wow! gg IRS.

Btw, the value of the ball is marked at just over 600k so if the guy keeps it he owes Uncle Sam 200k. SICK!

Madman Madman 08-08-2007 09:33 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
We as the people should do something about this. Thats so ridiculous.

hra146 08-08-2007 09:33 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
seeing that hes gonna sell it anyway its not that bad...


then again your country is fking sick in the head.

Kowalski 08-08-2007 09:37 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
That's [censored].

ocdscale 08-08-2007 09:43 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
400k for catching a ball is a beat?

error 08-08-2007 09:46 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
who is gonna buy a ball for 600k

chicken10der 08-08-2007 09:47 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
the only way he can afford to pay the taxes to keep it is to sell it, that's nuttier than squirrel turds

MusashiStyle 08-08-2007 09:51 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
LOL the value of that ball is somewhat subjective, I think that 200k could easily be argued down to exactly zero by any good lawyer.

though i could be wrong. if you were to obtain a van gogh somehow do u have to pay like 300k on a 900k piece? seems pretty analgous.

tereg 08-08-2007 09:55 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
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though i could be wrong. if you were to obtain a van gogh somehow do u have to pay like 300k on a 900k piece? seems pretty analgous.

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I guess if the Van Gogh got knocked by a 40" wodden bat and somehow traveled about 350ft or so and one person came out with the painting in a big mob with the painting unscathed...

sure, I can see that.

teh_mewse 08-08-2007 09:56 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
lol @ america

DopamineRelease 08-08-2007 09:57 PM

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400k for catching a ball is a beat?

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QFT.
It is a load of [censored] that he has to pay 200k but he still gets 400k for free

invid 08-08-2007 10:00 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
rofl imagine them having to make him stay after the game to get his full name and SS# down as if he just won a jackpot or some [censored]

tereg 08-08-2007 10:03 PM

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lol @ america

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Oops, sorry...

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though i could be wrong. if you were to obtain a van gogh somehow do u have to pay like 300k on a 900k piece? seems pretty analgous.

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I guess if the Van Gogh got knocked by a 1.016m wodden bat and somehow traveled about 106.68m or so and one person came out with the painting in a big mob with the painting unscathed...

sure, I can see that.

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IronFly 08-08-2007 10:04 PM

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though i could be wrong. if you were to obtain a van gogh somehow do u have to pay like 300k on a 900k piece? seems pretty analgous.

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you do if it was a gift, not if you paid for it

shaniac 08-08-2007 10:08 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
I really don't see how they can make him pay taxes on the ball if he derives no income from the ball. The IRS can't compute 35% of sentimental value.

The_Taj 08-08-2007 10:10 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
I'm sure there's someone out there would pony up 1-2 million for this ball.....If i were that guy i put up a set prize of about 1 million, and if there was heavy demand for it at that prize i'd bump it to 1.5 and so on until only one person was willing to pay for it.

xjimraketex 08-08-2007 10:13 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
oh say can you see
what so proudly we hail...

costanza_g 08-08-2007 10:14 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
paying taxes on income!?!!??!?! no waiiiii

Pobedonstev 08-08-2007 10:18 PM

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I'm sure there's someone out there would pony up 1-2 million for this ball.....If i were that guy i put up a set prize of about 1 million, and if there was heavy demand for it at that prize i'd bump it to 1.5 and so on until only one person was willing to pay for it.

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in america we call that an auction

IronFly 08-08-2007 10:19 PM

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I really don't see how they can make him pay taxes on the ball if he derives no income from the ball. The IRS can't compute 35% of sentimental value.

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I agree, but that's not the law. If you receive a gift of land that produces no income you still have to pay tax on the value of the land. The painting example was also pretty good.

swityak11 08-08-2007 10:20 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
Not a beat in the least. Todd McFarlane will pay like $4 million for it. He owns like every other mega priced record baseball.

fadedstar 08-08-2007 10:21 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
lol @ USA

need money for war

Tryptamean 08-08-2007 10:25 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
He should just mortgage the ball to pay the taxes if he wants to keep it

RikaKazak 08-08-2007 10:28 PM

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He should just mortgage the ball to pay the taxes if he wants to keep it

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LOL

USA = retarded

Slim Pickens 08-08-2007 10:41 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
Here's how the IRS works.

EV = (probability of him paying x)*x - (cost of getting him to pay x)

Cost of a letter stating the value of the ball and taxes he owes: $0.43 for the stamp + maybe $0.50/sheet for nice letterhead

P_pay: something more than zero

x: $200,000

The IRS makes +EV plays. He just has to make P_pay and x go down while forcing their cost up by hiring a decent tax lawyer.

Heavens_Myst 08-08-2007 10:42 PM

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lol @ USA

need money for war

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lol @ ur third world country

SmokeyRidesAgain 08-08-2007 11:00 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
LOL SHIP THE BEANS TO BUSH NH

mmbt0ne 08-08-2007 11:06 PM

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I really don't see how they can make him pay taxes on the ball if he derives no income from the ball. The IRS can't compute 35% of sentimental value.

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If I paint a picture that the IRS decides is worth ~10k, do I owe them $3k for the right to keep it?

jakhamma 08-08-2007 11:07 PM

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paying taxes on income!?!!??!?! no waiiiii

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Even if he had to keep the ball?

Come on, this is nonsense.

johndenver 08-08-2007 11:17 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
600K for the bonds ball. wrong.

the mcguire ball went for 3 mil

the bonds ball has to be worth at least double that

Bond18 08-08-2007 11:19 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
America, the land where only the super rich can afford historic baseballs.

tereg 08-08-2007 11:22 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
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600K for the bonds ball. wrong.

the mcguire ball went for 3 mil before the congressional hearing on steroids

the bonds ball has to be worth at least 1/6 that

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FYP

tufat23 08-08-2007 11:26 PM

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600K for the bonds ball. wrong.

the mcguire ball went for 3 mil before the congressional hearing on steroids

the bonds ball has to be worth at least 1/5 that

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FYP

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fyfyp

Dranoel 08-08-2007 11:27 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
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seeing that hes gonna sell it anyway its not that bad...


then again your country is fking sick in the head.

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Please, continue. What's the matter? Oh, you were finished? Well, allow me to retort.

Why does it seem that people just want to bitch & moan about the USA. Or, say stupid sh*t quoted above?

The reality is that people can't catch a boat\swim fast enough to get here. When was the last time you saw us point our finger at another country and joked about them all being retarded? *Crickets Chirping*

We understand, it's okay. These feeling of inadequacies will pass. You can run with the big dogs, or stay on the porch and yap.

deaders 08-08-2007 11:32 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
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seeing that hes gonna sell it anyway its not that bad...


then again your country is fking sick in the head.

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Please, continue. What's the matter? Oh, you were finished? Well, allow me to retort.

Why does it seem that people just want to bitch & moan about the USA. Or, say stupid sh*t quoted above?

The reality is that people can't catch a boat\swim fast enough to get here. When was the last time you saw us point our finger at another country and joked about them all being retarded? *Crickets Chirping*

We understand, it's okay. These feeling of inadequacies will pass. You can run with the big dogs, or stay on the porch and yap.

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lol they arent laughing at the country as such, more the people in it just like yourself.

mo42nyy 08-08-2007 11:34 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
the bonds ball wont go for anything near mcgwires

the taxes thing is [censored]
so what if he kept it for 10 years? would he have to pay taxes on 600k then on what he sold it for in 10 years?
what if it came back on the field- would bonds have to pay taxes on it?

tereg 08-08-2007 11:38 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
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600K for the bonds ball. wrong.

the mcguire ball went for 3 mil before the congressional hearing on steroids

the bonds ball has to be worth at <u>most</u> 1/5 that

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FYP

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fyfyp

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DUCY?

neverforgetlol 08-08-2007 11:41 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
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seeing that hes gonna sell it anyway its not that bad...


then again your country is fking sick in the head.

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Please, continue. What's the matter? Oh, you were finished? Well, allow me to retort.

Why does it seem that people just want to bitch &amp; moan about the USA. Or, say stupid sh*t quoted above?

The reality is that people can't catch a boat\swim fast enough to get here. When was the last time you saw us point our finger at another country and joked about them all being retarded? *Crickets Chirping*

We understand, it's okay. These feeling of inadequacies will pass. You can run with the big dogs, or stay on the porch and yap.

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9/11 never forget god bless america

Jiganti 08-08-2007 11:46 PM

Re: Are you F#%^&ng kidding me!!!!!!! Super Beat for some dude.
 
I can really see this turning into a lol_america thread.

tufat23 08-08-2007 11:49 PM

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600K for the bonds ball. wrong.

the mcguire ball went for 3 mil before the congressional hearing on steroids

the bonds ball has to be worth at <u>most</u> 1/5 that

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FYP

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fyfyp

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DUCY?

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id prop bet that the first time its sold its $600k+


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