100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

Villain is essentially an unknown (20 hands), but has not shown himself to be a monkey, but then again, 20 hands...

WTF is this? Is it AA and he's praying I have KK or maybe AK?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $99.00
BB: $98.50
UTG: $139.20
Hero (CO): $236.50
BTN: $109.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $98.50</font>, Hero is stunned and ...?

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

snap call, there is no other play.

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

Call every time, any villain, regardless of stats with those stacks.

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

That's what I thought but I really wasn't sure...

I mean, wtf plays like this? Not to mention, I hadn't seen this crap since I moved up....

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

?? You must play in some tough games. This happens everyday. With villain showing like 44.

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

gotta call this.

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

I think he can only have AA here.

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

same action happened to me a week ago. I snap called and he turned over AA... But i think you have to snap call this every time.

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

lol at only having AA. he has 55 or sooooted connectorz

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

What hand other than AA could make a play like that ? If BB was a shortstack I would agree, but 100bb deep ? (unless he's a total idiot :d)

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

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What hand other than AA could make a play like that ? If BB was a shortstack I would agree, but 100bb deep ? (unless he's a total idiot :d)

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The fact that its only 100bbs makes this an easy call.

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

Hes is an idiot, given that he shoved for 100 bb, unless hes trying to be funny and normally plays well. CALL

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

But imagine he's an average, normal guy. Not a genius but not an idiot either. I think we can narrow his range to exactly AA here.

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

you really need to make a read here. check the hand history and see if this guy is a fool.

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

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But imagine he's an average, normal guy. Not a genius but not an idiot either. I think we can narrow his range to exactly AA here.

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yup.

and if you get involved in a pot with this 'average normal non idiot non genius guy' and have middle set...you should probably just muck that too. he clearly has top set, why else would he push?

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

i mean, i knew you were a nit, but.....

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

This is some [censored] hand almost always.

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

by the way 20 hands is more than enough time to get a read if you arent multitabling. checking recent hand history to see if this guy is a donkey is key here.

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

LOL@ at Fred2K making an account for this post. I think he was villain in this hand, btw (similar name).

He had AA...this is NOT a BBV post. I really was ???? on this. Obv is he's a shortie, I snap call. Never seen a fullstack do this though.

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

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But imagine he's an average, normal guy. Not a genius but not an idiot either. I think we can narrow his range to exactly AA here.

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You are leveling, right? Do you even play poker?

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

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He had AA...this is NOT a BBV post. I really was ???? on this. Obv is he's a shortie, I snap call. Never seen a fullstack do this though.


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At least 5 different people did this with 80+ BB stacks at pstars NL $100 against me tonight alone. I'm pretty sure they all didn't have AA. Not sure what was going on tonight but there were so many idiot/maniacs out tonight that I had never played with before.

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

you couldn't pry KK out of my hands with a crow bar

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

Last night at FTP 100NL I called a 4 and a 5bet AI with KK and both times I was shown QQ and both times for 90+ BBs.

I've had some periods where I would repeadedly run into AA, but the more I play the more I believe that KK can't be folded w/o a very good read for less than 100 BBs.

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

snap call with fist pump

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

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snap call with fist pump

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160$ in the bank mans

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

it's fist pump time

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

In this spot I go with fist pumping and yelling "oo oo oo oo ..." getting progressively louder while jumping up and down. When he shows us AA call him a [censored] retard if it's live or type 'nh sir' if it's online. They effectively mean the same thing IME.

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

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But imagine he's an average, normal guy. Not a genius but not an idiot either. I think we can narrow his range to exactly AA here.

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It's difficult to imagine because I'm pretty sure only an idiot would play any hand like this.

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

lol.

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

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When he shows us AA call him a [censored] retard if it's live or type 'nh sir' if it's online. They mean the same thing.

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Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

any advice other than snap call here is terrible.

Re: 100NL: KK gets 3bet...but how much sir?
 

Instacall.