10nl AK getting tons of action preflop
 

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Button ($9.75)
SB ($11.15)
BB ($10.70)
UTG ($10)
Hero ($22)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4.1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $11.15</font>, Hero calls $7.05.

Flop: ($22.40) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: ($22.40) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($22.40) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $22.40


I was playing Laggy and this guy was 3betting me a lot. Is a better line to fold to 5 bet AI, or just to call the 3b with AK?

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you have position here...just call his PF 3 bet

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Would have folded AK to his 2nd raise pre-flop

With KK would have gone all in

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there is almost no way youre good here

this is not a tournament, dont overplay ak pf

call the 3 bet in position

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call the 3 bet in position

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Seems quite standard if you've got a bit of a 3-bet battle going on with villain

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ppl always overplay AK.
i think he have a pair in his hand, i dont see him reraising with AQ. fold and go to the next hand

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Your getting over 2-1, you can't possibly fold this

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Your getting over 2-1, you can't possibly fold this

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He is getting 2-1 but most of this is his own money. By putting too much money into the pot you give yourself better odds for later. This can lead to playing a hand you never should have. This is not a money making play...

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No way I am putting 1/3 my stack in with AK preflop. Period.

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Your getting over 2-1, you can't possibly fold this

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He is getting 2-1 but most of this is his own money. By putting too much money into the pot you give yourself better odds for later. This can lead to playing a hand you never should have. This is not a money making play...

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In terms of the ultimate decision of whether to fold or call, then I don't care how it got there, it is dead money, I am getting over 2-1 so it's a mandatory call.
Of course I care about it much more when it's been put in. I personally prefer a call in position but this guy has been 3 betting a lot, 1 way to combat it is 4 bet so I see nothing wrong with heroes play here at all.

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No way I am putting 1/3 my stack in with AK preflop. Period.

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Lol, what is with the hatred of AK, your all nits!

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i just call a 3 bet mostly with AK

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Ugh.. some of this is making me vom.

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He is getting 2-1 but most of this is his own money. By putting too much money into the pot you give yourself better odds for later. This can lead to playing a hand you never should have. This is not a money making play...

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That's irrelevant.. Once its in the pot, its not his money anymore, 2-1 odds are 2-1 odds no matter whose money is in the pot. However, I would still just call the 3b, or push... w/ AK, I'd much rather be the AI aggressor than calling someone else AI, because the FE you get from it is usually what makes it +EV, rather than flipping or being dom'd.

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ppl always overplay AK.
i think he have a pair in his hand, i dont see him reraising with AQ. fold and go to the next hand

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Are you advocating folding to the 3b? Please tell youre not. So what if he has a pair in his hand... we're flipping against all but two pairs. Even if we know he's only doing this w/ JJ+ and AK, we're 40/60, and getting odds to call.

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why would anyone turn ak into a bluff relatively speaking by 4 betting? just call and reevaluate flop