KG traded to Celtics for Jefferson/othercrap
 

Sources this morning are confirming that the Celtics’ deal for Kevin Garnett is essentially completed. One involved source said the final package will have the Celts sending Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, Gerald Green, Sebastian Telfair, Theo Ratliff and a No. 1 pick to Minnesota to acquire Garnett. Boston Herald

KG/Ray/Pierce = favorites to win the east, contenders for the championship.

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I'm not a basketball expert, but I can't believe KG makes the Celts favorites to win the east.

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Three bonafide superstars. I don't care what they have at the other positions they're team is stacked now. What team has enough defense to stop KG in the post, Allen on the perimeter, and Pierce all over? The only thing is Doc Rivers. He's got to go. Horrible game coach.

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Rivers is a huge liability and we still need a backup point guard. They aren't definitely the favorites, but they are definitely top 3 now.

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glad to see we needed another thread for this. Didn't you notice the Celtics thread has been lingering at the top the page all day? I've notified Meb to hopefully lock this up. We should keep all the discussion in one place.

And Mikey, you are correct, you are no basketball expert [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. That being said, the top 3-4 in the East are all pretty close.

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depending on what the cavs do i think the celtics are the favorites to come out of the east, but not by a huge margin or anything. they really do need some help at the 1 as benza mentioned, and it's not like rondo is a guaranteed stud or anything as a starter.

and when i say they're the favorites, i may just be grossly underestimating the ability of doc rivers to [censored] everything up terribly

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glad to see we needed another thread for this. Didn't you notice the Celtics thread has been lingering at the top the page all day? I've notified Meb to hopefully lock this up. We should keep all the discussion in one place.



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Get over yourself. This is big enough news to warrant its own thread. Not everyone is in the habit of wading the the the Celtics thread and discussing every random schmuck in green.

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The freaking CAVS won the East last season, I'd say the Celts are right there.

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Chauncey Billups is going for 32/16/25 this season. The Pistons got it.

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glad to see we needed another thread for this. Didn't you notice the Celtics thread has been lingering at the top the page all day? I've notified Meb to hopefully lock this up. We should keep all the discussion in one place.

And Mikey, you are correct, you are no basketball expert [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. That being said, the top 3-4 in the East are all pretty close.

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I guess I just am shocked that adding KG will add 30 wins to a team so automatically that people are calling them favorites. The East is far behind the West for sure, but it isn't completely devoid of solid teams (Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland).

Though I just looked at the standings for last year and I guess I underestimated just how poor the East is.

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glad to see we needed another thread for this. Didn't you notice the Celtics thread has been lingering at the top the page all day? I've notified Meb to hopefully lock this up. We should keep all the discussion in one place.



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Get over yourself. This is big enough news to warrant its own thread. Not everyone is in the habit of wading the the the Celtics thread and discussing every random schmuck in green.

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yeah but the last 50 posts have all been on this exact topic.

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Yeah this is definitely worthy of its own thread, people read them based on thread titles and "Celtics" isn't very helpful. That thread is fine for the homers.

Bummed for the Suns though, but at least the EC actually got better at the expense of the West for a change.

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I for one didn't know anything about this so I'm glad for the new thread.

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Get over yourself. This is big enough news to warrant its own thread. Not everyone is in the habit of wading the the the Celtics thread and discussing every random schmuck in green.

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yeah but the last 50 posts have all been on this exact topic.

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Whatever, I'm just sick of the "OMG lock it if its not in the huge unwieldy OFFICIAL thread" attitude.

The official threads officially outlived their usefulness with the mammoth and unreadable NBA playoff thread. If someone can't start a fresh thread for the biggest NBA trade in years then this forum is way too uptight.

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glad to see we needed another thread for this. Didn't you notice the Celtics thread has been lingering at the top the page all day? I've notified Meb to hopefully lock this up. We should keep all the discussion in one place.

And Mikey, you are correct, you are no basketball expert [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. That being said, the top 3-4 in the East are all pretty close.

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I guess I just am shocked that adding KG will add 30 wins to a team so automatically that people are calling them favorites. The East is far behind the West for sure, but it isn't completely devoid of solid teams (Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland).

Though I just looked at the standings for last year and I guess I underestimated just how poor the East is.

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KG alone, probably not. KG + Allen + a Pierce who will actually play, will.

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glad to see we needed another thread for this. Didn't you notice the Celtics thread has been lingering at the top the page all day? I've notified Meb to hopefully lock this up. We should keep all the discussion in one place.



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Get over yourself. This is big enough news to warrant its own thread. Not everyone is in the habit of wading the the the Celtics thread and discussing every random schmuck in green.

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yeah but the last 50 posts have all been on this exact topic.

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Whatever, I'm just sick of the "OMG lock it if its not in the huge unwieldy OFFICIAL thread" attitude.

The official threads officially outlived their usefulness with the mammoth and unreadable NBA playoff thread. If someone can't start a fresh thread for the biggest NBA trade in years then this forum is way too uptight.

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I agree with both.

I wish we could copy and paste all the KG posts from there to a new thread like this one, because it does deserve its own thread, but the thread would benefit from the discussion that has already taken place.

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they got what... a three year window right now.... they should get some role players a.s.a.p

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they can have Nash Marion Amare Barbs, suns are in the rebuilding stage

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glad to see we needed another thread for this. Didn't you notice the Celtics thread has been lingering at the top the page all day? I've notified Meb to hopefully lock this up. We should keep all the discussion in one place.

And Mikey, you are correct, you are no basketball expert [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. That being said, the top 3-4 in the East are all pretty close.

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I guess I just am shocked that adding KG will add 30 wins to a team so automatically that people are calling them favorites. The East is far behind the West for sure, but it isn't completely devoid of solid teams (Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland).

Though I just looked at the standings for last year and I guess I underestimated just how poor the East is.

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KG alone, probably not. KG + Allen + a Pierce who will actually play, will.

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Yea, Pierce barely played last year due to injuries (both real and tank related) plus they picked up Allen already. Adding KG gives them 3 all stars who can hopefully stay healthy. The only major piece they lost in these deals was Jefferson, they will definitely be significantly better.

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LOL Artdogg, there's not a true Suns homer who doesn't think they can win with what they have, so I know you're BSing. Still, to have gotten KG for Marion + another rotation player (probably Diaw if MN would take him) + a pick or two would have been pretty goddamned sweet. Still glad they didn't trade Amare though...

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glad i saw this thread bc there i would never consider opening that celtics thread.

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you have to go for it if you're ainge. you have the same window with the three superstars that you had with allen/pierce, and you'd be [censored] either way if you didnt win it all in that window. jefferson isn't a guy who can carry the load when pierce is 4 years older. i'd rather them blow it up again in 5 years than keep drafting #15-20 for the rest of my life.

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simmons has a pretty good article, it's always refreshing to see a diehard fan with a crappy team react to impact news. as always, simmons is a great writer.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...simmons/070730

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Maybe PP will hit the damn treadmill and get his chubby behind in gear now that he has some real players on the squad. So who's gonna sweep the Celts in the Finals this year? SA/PHO/HOU/DAL/UTAH?

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But what about their bench? Its weak at best.

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Tony Allen
Big Baby (Serviceable NBA body)
Scalabrine (OMG SOMEONE KILL HIM)

Who is left in free agency that we could make a run at?

Brevin Knight?
What about Forwards?

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Yeah, you're right. My b.

Re: The bench. Give it time. We obviously need to pick up a couple pieces. If we only get one, it has to be a PG. We could deal with having weak support off the bench at the 4-5 spot with Powe and Davis, but a decent back up PG is a must.

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Simmons' article reminded me about Jefferson's current contract. He's a free agent in 2 years. That sort of blows for the TWolves. I wish it was more like 4 years so he could resign with the Celtics, but at least he'll be free (if he hasn't eaten himself out the league since he'll be so depressed).

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got anyone to trade for raefer alston... i'll give him to you

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got anyone to trade for raefer alston... i'll give him to you

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hotsauce and 1/2 man, 1/2 amazing

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Like always Simmons has me excited. I am likely buying season tickets tomorrow, who wants in with me?

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well as a cavs fan this sucks. i would imagine the bulls and pistons arent happy either.

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what free agent exceptions do the celts have? because they are way, way over the cap and have zero tradeable assets left, right? i don't see how they can win even the east right now. who is their starting center? do they have any guards behind allen and rondo?

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KG is my second favorite player of all time (behind Reggie), and as a Knick fan I'm iffy about this feeling. Seems like he got put on a great EC contender, but it's on a rival team. Probably will go to some Celt/Knick games.

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That's a lot to pay for a one year rental of KG. Cause he's opting out and he ain't staying, he's going west young man to play with his bestest buddy Steve...

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what free agent exceptions do the celts have? because they are way, way over the cap and have zero tradeable assets left, right? i don't see how they can win even the east right now. who is their starting center? do they have any guards behind allen and rondo?

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PG - Rondo
SG - Allen
SF - Pierce
PF - KG
C - Perk

Bench
Allen
Pruitt
Powe
Big Baby
Scalabrine
Brandon Wallace

Do they have mid level exception left or is B-Scal still eating it up?

I don't see how you can say you dont see that team winning the East. They will add a vet or two now like Brevin Knight. Dee Brown is out of Utah too now.

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That's a lot to pay for a one year rental of KG. Cause he's opting out and he ain't staying, he's going west young man to play with his bestest buddy Steve...

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Are you drunk? A big part of this deal was him signing a long term deal without an opt out as well as him opting out of him trade escalator. The C's aren't finalizing things till then.

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That's a lot to pay for a one year rental of KG. Cause he's opting out and he ain't staying, he's going west young man to play with his bestest buddy Steve...

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lol

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Also Gomes being in this thing isnt a done deal. Which would be a nice piece to keep.