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Zeno 07-30-2007 11:06 AM

Ingmar Bergman opens the Seventh Seal
 
Ingmar Bergman Dies

Was he really that good or was all just smoke and mirrors, shadows and trick lighing, ratty scripts and ego driven actors? Anyway I hope he met death without the hood.

-Zeno

diebitter 07-30-2007 11:12 AM

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No he was good.

It's a shame, and I feel a little guilty about hoping this'll probmpt an Ingmar Bergman season on TV.

Dominic 07-30-2007 12:41 PM

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He wsa pretty amazing...Wild Strawberries, Persona and Fanny & Alexander remain my favorites. The Virgin Spring is pretty powerful, too.

rothko 07-30-2007 01:31 PM

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if i was god i would send death in a hood just for kicks and ingmar and i could laugh about it later.

thanks for posting this. wouldn't have known otherwise. bergman was way ahead of his time.

jogsxyz 07-30-2007 02:45 PM

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No he was good.

It's a shame, and I feel a little guilty about hoping this'll probmpt an Ingmar Bergman season on TV.

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Never, TV would cut(edit out scenes) his movies to pieces.

evolvedForm 07-30-2007 03:35 PM

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I probably shouldn't be surprised, this news comes after I just watched his trilogy of faith and came to accept him as my Lord and Savior of Cinema. His films are more sublime than any by other great directors. They are incredibly powerful on a very deep level, but only if you have the patience and the sensitivity.

ClassicBob 07-30-2007 04:22 PM

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I've only gotten around to The Seventh Seal and Virgin Spring, and I consider both to be masterpieces. I'll have to move some of his other work up my queue.

jogsxyz 07-30-2007 06:29 PM

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http://keitholbermannisevil.files.wo...venth-seal.jpg

ClassicBob 07-31-2007 02:38 PM

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Wow, Bergman and Antonioni on back to back days.

pryor15 07-31-2007 04:34 PM

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Wow, Bergman and Antonioni on back to back days.

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anyone seen Godard lately?

Blarg 07-31-2007 05:09 PM

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I think he slipped into his own navel and fell to his death.

Peter666 08-01-2007 01:29 AM

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Bergman was not only a great director, but he was a prolifically great director.

It is hard and usually unfair to rank films and directors in an ascending or descending order of greatness. Too much relies on one's personal aesthetic opinion or current whims. I don't think anyone can say whether Bergman was better or worse than Welles, Mizoguchi, Renoir... etc.

But we can say that for sheer number of great films, Bergman is at the top of the list with Alfred Hitchcock. Of Bergman's 50 or so films, about a dozen are considered major works of cinema. Only Hitchcock can match or surpass this, followed by John Ford and Akira Kurosawa.

thecincykiddo 08-01-2007 10:45 AM

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I think he slipped into his own navel and fell to his death.

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That seems a bit severe, but I'm with you on the overratedness.

He's worth studying...but worth worshiping?


As for directors with high quantities of great films, I think it's altogether too easy to forget about the "who you know" and the "where you were," not to mention how many directors lucked into their jobs. Would Hitchcock have been able to make as many movies and to the scale that he did if he hadn't lucked out at Paramount?

What I like best about Bergman is that he was a true artist. It's almost like you need a tragedy of some sort in your life to be able to be an artist that really accomplishes something lasting in the way of human connections. I see self-styled artists, a lot of them these days, who've never really lived let alone survived anything really tragic making empty things. Or worse, making their lives (and the lives of those who love them) harder than they need to be because they're aware that their lives have lacked some serious depth and experience and they feel the need to compensate. Sometimes that works.

Bergman didn't need that. When your parents lock you in a closet (starting at the age of five?) and tell you to pray for your life, I imagine the path is sort of laid out.

Blarg 08-01-2007 11:38 AM

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Just to clarify, I was joking about Godard, not Bergman.

thecincykiddo 08-01-2007 03:01 PM

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Just so you know, I knew that. I figured if anyone wasn't following the thread, that it wasn't my problem. There are probably people who worship Bergman, but I don't think I've ever met any.

pryor15 08-01-2007 03:37 PM

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There are probably people who worship Bergman, but I don't think I've ever met any.

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*raises hand*

Blarg 08-01-2007 04:27 PM

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I just remember Bergman boring the hell out of me when I was a kid, but I'll probably give him another chance some day. I confess that I'm not looking forward to it.

thecincykiddo 08-02-2007 10:39 AM

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There are probably people who worship Bergman, but I don't think I've ever met any.

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*raises hand*

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...have we met?

pryor15 08-02-2007 12:11 PM

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There are probably people who worship Bergman, but I don't think I've ever met any.

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*raises hand*

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...have we met?

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just on the internets

WhoIam 08-04-2007 07:11 AM

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Wow, somehow I missed this news. Time to choose a new favorite living director.

pryor15 08-04-2007 11:18 AM

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Wow, somehow I missed this news. Time to choose a new favorite living director.

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Antonioni too

yeah, it's been a bad week

diebitter 08-04-2007 11:48 AM

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Wow, somehow I missed this news. Time to choose a new favorite living director.

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Herzog?

Blarg 08-04-2007 12:48 PM

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Already taken.


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