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jordiepop 07-29-2007 05:23 PM

98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
first hand
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($8, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5</font>, 2 folds, Button calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($18, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $24</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $77</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $130</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero ?

apunisher 07-29-2007 05:24 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
after u 3bet turn ur felting, so go ai

Nthnuts 07-29-2007 05:27 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
Stacks?

jordiepop 07-29-2007 05:27 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
[ QUOTE ]
Stacks?

[/ QUOTE ]
100bb

jessyj07 07-29-2007 05:33 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
"don't go broke in a limped pot" -I forget who said this but it seems true here.

Nthnuts 07-29-2007 05:42 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
I probably just call the initial turn minraise and call a reasonable river bet. As played I'd say fold, it seems overwhelmingly likely that this is a set given the dryness of the board.

Thoth 07-29-2007 05:46 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
I don't like the turn 3-bet. If he's bluffing or thinks 1 pair is good here, better let him bluf/bet the river as well as he's usually going to fold to the raise (although occasionally someone will call you down with A9). If he has better than 1 pair you're splitting at best.

Raising is only good when he's on some kind of draw, but people usually make a real raise then and not a minraise.

Imrahil 07-29-2007 05:54 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
[ QUOTE ]
"don't go broke in a limped pot" -I forget who said this but it seems true here.

[/ QUOTE ]e

What a stupid saying. There's also a saying that says don't go broke with a draw which is [censored]. Top two on this board is the nuts.

jessyj07 07-29-2007 05:58 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
"don't go broke in a limped pot" -I forget who said this but it seems true here.

[/ QUOTE ]e

What a stupid saying. There's also a saying that says don't go broke with a draw which is [censored]. Top two on this board is the nuts.

[/ QUOTE ]I agree that it's a stupid saying that people like repeating it because it makes them look like they read a gay book but in this hand pushing is retarded. He clearly has at least top two, therefore top two is not the nuts. If the board was more drawy it may in fact be the nuts.

Fistdantilus 07-29-2007 06:03 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
[ QUOTE ]
Top two on this board is the nuts.

[/ QUOTE ]

Get it in there. There is literally no other option. He could have picked up a great draw (or just a plain one) or had a worse two pair before (it does happen). Or playing AA in a strange way. Easy shove.

RUDIKULOUS 07-29-2007 06:11 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
Theres like what, 5 combos of flopped sets? I probably just get it in. The guy limped the button, hes probably an idiot. So, I wouldnt be surprised to see like AA 56hh or A7hh or some other stuff.

jordiepop 07-29-2007 06:14 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
"don't go broke in a limped pot" -I forget who said this but it seems true here.

[/ QUOTE ]e

What a stupid saying. There's also a saying that says don't go broke with a draw which is [censored]. Top two on this board is the nuts.

[/ QUOTE ]


i see both arguments ... ive seen aa as well as a set in these spots ,, also it could be a big draw.... i generally think going broke here was ok

Spechel EDD 07-29-2007 06:14 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
well since hes limping button i dont see him as a competent player. i wouldnt mind getting it in here at all.

davekngs 07-29-2007 06:39 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
if you are going to fold in this spot you have no business playing poker

fees 07-29-2007 06:48 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
all in...

MercifulZidane 07-29-2007 06:52 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
Just to chime in - to everyone saying this is clearly an allin situation.

Its his first hand at the table, his opponent is minraising the turn, and then min-re-raising back (?)
Seems super-strong and I can't ever see this being a draw. I think the fact that its his first hand at the table is an important consideration, and hero's decision is a very close one.

Imrahil 07-29-2007 06:57 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
The only hand we're scared of is 44. If he's bad enough to min raise he's bad enough to have some crappy two pair here or AA.

Sly_Fox 07-29-2007 06:59 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
I still shove if it's first hand. If he has a set I hope to fill or shrug it off and re-load.

MercifulZidane 07-29-2007 07:07 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
On second thought, I suppose that with 100bb behind, and after raising the turn back, we are pretty much commited to the pot.

shpanko 07-29-2007 08:14 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
Shove and stack his AA [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I'm totally serious.

jessyj07 07-29-2007 08:19 PM

Re: 98 top 2, turn raise on blank turn
 
[ QUOTE ]
Shove and stack his AA [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I'm totally stupid.

[/ QUOTE ]you 2p2ers really like making these hero shoves/calls don't you?


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