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nanamar05 07-29-2007 03:26 PM

Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
Was just wondering, because it seems like the standard continuation bet never work at the micro limit. However, it works ~75% of the time in medium limits.

So is it easier to play solid poker in the medium stakes than micro limits?

jon166 07-29-2007 03:27 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
i play 5 nl and my cont bets always work... out of position even

jstill 07-29-2007 03:27 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
they say theres no such thing as a dumb question; i disagree

Astyanax 07-29-2007 03:27 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
Odds of getting a serious answer in bbv:

Yes - 1000-1
No - 6/4
Bastard!!! - 1/3

adanthar 07-29-2007 03:30 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
first "immediately move up to where they respect your raises, obv" answer in a "higher limits are easier" thread

Stake Monster 07-29-2007 03:35 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
I think it's the same. Move up.

GrandMelon 07-29-2007 03:36 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
at least you have a good avatar

ocdscale 07-29-2007 03:38 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Was just wondering, because it seems like the standard continuation bet never work at the micro limit. However, it works ~75% of the time in medium limits.

So is it easier to play solid poker in the medium stakes than micro limits?

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Okay, I'll give you a serious answer.
Micro stakes players don't play as well, they draw out without odds and it's harder to put them on hands because they can play ATC.
If you don't realize how this makes it easier to make money, then you will get slaughtered higher up.

veganmav 07-29-2007 03:55 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
u r joking right?

spino1i 07-29-2007 04:03 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
short and long answer: no

clerkie 07-29-2007 04:17 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
yep, you're right.
there's a lot more abc poker in lower stakes.
2/4 is far more easier than 25/50, believe.

Jay Riall 07-29-2007 04:18 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
I am willing to overlook your retarded question because of the [censored] awesomeness that is your avatar.

Jiganti 07-29-2007 04:23 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
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I am willing to overlook your retarded question because of the [censored] awesomeness that is your avatar.

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I'm not willing to overlook it and I'll flame you for it. OP you suck if you can beat 5000nl but not 10nl then consider killing yourself, but I permit you to continue sucking here as long as you keep that avatar.

AHoboOnFire 07-29-2007 04:24 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
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at least you have a good avatar

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jfreels 07-29-2007 04:32 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Was just wondering, because it seems like the standard continuation bet never work at the micro limit. However, it works ~75% of the time in medium limits.

So is it easier to play solid poker in the medium stakes than micro limits?

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thinly veiled brag for OP's avatar

pearl6 07-29-2007 04:36 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
Thread saved by OP's avatar

greggg230 07-29-2007 04:49 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
lower stakes are higher variance, since people will be hard to read and often get all the money in when hand values run closer together (i.e. AA vs TT on pre-flop is a closer race than AA vs TT on a flop that didn't improve either)

however the players suck so your winrate will be higher

Speedlimits 07-29-2007 04:52 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
YEAH MAN 5/10NL = .5/1NL I MADE A POST ON THIS ABOUT 8 MONTHS AGO USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION

bsheck 07-29-2007 04:56 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
Micro limits are tougher because the players fold less often. It's hard to beat a player that never folds. At the higher stakes, you can just use metagame and put your opponent putting you putting them on a hand and rake in the dough.

greggg230 07-29-2007 06:04 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
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Micro limits are tougher because the players fold less often. It's hard to beat a player that never folds. At the higher stakes, you can just use metagame and put your opponent putting you putting them on a hand and rake in the dough.

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i hear the reason high stakes are so easy is because the players are so good that they pretty much always fold

sokiraJ 07-29-2007 06:09 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
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I am willing to overlook your retarded question because of the [censored] awesomeness that is your avatar.

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I'm not willing to overlook it and I'll flame you for it. OP you suck if you can beat 5000nl but not 10nl then consider killing yourself, but I permit you to continue sucking here as long as you keep that avatar.

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I'd rather beat 5000nl than 10nl

poker12 07-29-2007 09:31 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
it is so much harder at 10nl then 1000nl. Take whatever you have now, or borrow, and sit at 1000nl and all your cbets will be respected.

GSykes 07-29-2007 09:38 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
NO

Nielsio 07-29-2007 09:43 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Was just wondering, because it seems like the standard continuation bet never work at the micro limit. However, it works ~75% of the time in medium limits.

So is it easier to play solid poker in the medium stakes than micro limits?

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I'm pretty sure nobody 'respects your raises' at teh nosebleed stakes.

nuclear500 07-29-2007 10:24 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Was just wondering, because it seems like the standard continuation bet never work at the micro limit. However, it works ~75% of the time in medium limits.

So is it easier to play solid poker in the medium stakes than micro limits?

[/ QUOTE ]

Okay, I'll give you a serious answer.
Micro stakes players don't play as well, they draw out without odds and it's harder to put them on hands because they can play ATC.
If you don't realize how this makes it easier to make money, then you will get slaughtered higher up.

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yah, except you have to wait for x hands before you are dealt the hand they will pay you off because they can't fold etc etc etc, then you hope your table selection has non-nit gamblers etc etc.

Its easier yet its harder because you HAVE to have a hand to win against a calling station ATC (and Omaha A4C) players. You don't have to have a hand to win at higher stakes...etc etc.

with that said I do not prescribe to the "move up 'where the raises are respected'" philosophy. If you can't, long term, come away a winner at .05/.10, you aren't going to come away a winner, long term, at .50/1 or 1/2

I'm in the stages of figuring out how to beat Hold 'Em and Omaha both at .05/.10 - but my patience for hands is what is killing me.

A_C_Slater 07-29-2007 10:42 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
'I'm just gonna start severly overbetting the pot here. I get sick of people just calling me when I don't have nothin... I really do.' --Tuff_Fish

allinonadraw 07-29-2007 10:42 PM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
Avatar delivers. A+++

spacebetween 07-30-2007 01:50 AM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Was just wondering, because it seems like the standard continuation bet never work at the micro limit. However, it works ~75% of the time in medium limits.

So is it easier to play solid poker in the medium stakes than micro limits?

[/ QUOTE ]Yes, nl 400 is very easy

lauren t 07-30-2007 01:51 AM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
i crush 2/4-5/10 and im positive i would not be a winner at microlimits over 1k+ hands

lauren t 07-30-2007 01:52 AM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
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i crush 2/4-5/10 and im positive i would not be a winner at microlimits over 1k+ hands

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this has nothing to do with the difficulty of the games, more like i would prob kill myself or start open shoving every hand if i played 1k+ hands of microlimits

Dan87 07-30-2007 01:54 AM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
NL200-600 are still relatively as easy as microlimits because fish are still fish.

cowpig 07-30-2007 02:08 AM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
[ QUOTE ]
i crush 2/4-5/10 and im positive i would not be a winner at microlimits over 1k+ hands

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cking 07-30-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
i think easiest games online are .5/1 and 1/2nl

ocdscale 07-30-2007 02:14 AM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
Scale theorem of online poker explains why 1.2 is so much easier than 25NL-100NL
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post11442972

FortunaMaximus 07-30-2007 02:24 AM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
Pretty sure you can play a snug 77/17, at least at the nanos.

100 deeper, ah, better off multi-tabling and staying snugger than that.

And then there's this...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG+1 ($1.75)
MP1 ($1.98)
MP2 ($13.96)
MP3 ($0.94)
CO ($1.90)
Button ($0.89)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($2.78)</font>
BB ($6.83)
<font color="#C00000">Valentyno ($5)</font>

Preflop: Valentyno is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Valentyno posts a blind of $0.02.
Valentyno (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls $0.02, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.02, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $0.04</font>, BB calls $0.02, <font color="#CC3333">Valentyno raises to $0.06</font>, MP3 folds, Button calls $0.04, SB calls $0.02, BB calls $0.02.

Flop: ($0.26) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $0.06</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Valentyno raises to $0.2</font>, Button folds, SB calls $0.14.

Turn: ($0.66) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2.52 (All-In)</font>, Valentyno calls $2.52.

River: ($0) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $5.70

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Kd 4c (one pair, kings).
Valentyno has 7h Ts (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Valentyno wins $5.70. </font>

That said, yeah, even that tests my patience, so I usually go for very short sessions.

Dangeresque 07-30-2007 03:16 AM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Was just wondering, because it seems like the standard continuation bet never work at the micro limit. However, it works ~75% of the time in medium limits.

So is it easier to play solid poker in the medium stakes than micro limits?

[/ QUOTE ]

Girls making out; didn't read.

SNOWBALL 07-30-2007 03:31 AM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
EVERYONE JUST WANTS TO CALL ME LIKE CRAZY WHEN I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING

nanamar05 07-30-2007 03:37 AM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
I played one session of 200 NL and crushed the game. Then played ~400 hands at at the 50NL and got crushed.

Happens all the time!

Steel 07-30-2007 03:57 AM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
wow

matt85 07-30-2007 06:13 AM

Re: Are micro limits harder to play than medium or high stakes?
 
I personally find NL100 the easiest game on the internet and this includes everything &lt;NL100.

Why this is I dont know but I seriously get raped at every [censored] level upto this yet but absolutely destroy NL100.

Someone please tell me why this is.


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