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BobboFitos 07-29-2007 08:55 AM

HEAT SIGN SMUSH PARKER ZOMG
 
Im so desperate for any nba news that this qualifies. How smush is not playing in europe is beyond me, but yeah, he will be the heat new starting pg. smush sucks...
story!

tuq 07-29-2007 10:57 AM

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smush sucks...

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Yep.

This will further tip the balance of power to the Western Conference, because his mere existence in the EC makes it worse.

hanster 07-29-2007 10:59 PM

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hahahahaha die heat fans die hahahaha you know your championship years are behind you when you sign smush hahahahaha

(obv a Lakers fan)

But seriously, having to watch Smush start as a PG really killed me. I had no idea how I survived but I was excited to see him leave. (Never before had I been happy when someone left my team)

In other news, Navarro might play in the NBA soon weeeeeeeee

Wondercall 07-30-2007 07:24 AM

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LOL Kobe liked this guy. He likes him even more now.

CharlieDontSurf 07-30-2007 05:38 PM

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Im so desperate for any nba news that this qualifies. How smush is not playing in europe is beyond me, but yeah, he will be the heat new starting pg. smush sucks...
story!

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Garnett, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce all on the same Eastern team doesn't count as news?

wonderwes 07-30-2007 05:51 PM

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It simply confirms how watered down the league is compared to the 80's and 90's era.

Case Closed 07-30-2007 05:58 PM

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lol, he already said Wade is more of a people person than Kobe. He's been there a couple of days and he already throws Kobe under the bus? Wow.

tuq 07-30-2007 06:06 PM

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CC,

A ham sandwich is more of a people person than Kobe.

MattSuspect 07-30-2007 06:17 PM

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FORDHAM UNIVERSITY BABY!

Artdogg 07-30-2007 06:27 PM

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Fantastic signing, too bad the suns let this gem go after giving him a few 10-day contracts. Heat/Spurs is pretty much a lock now for the championship matchup, this after the Celtics blow a 3-0 lead after Donaghy gets reinstated. Stern and co. will have no idea who to give the championship this time around though so they will probably just have the Heat/Spurs as co-champs.

tuq 07-30-2007 06:30 PM

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[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Artdogg when he's on one of his rants.

Assani Fisher 07-30-2007 07:22 PM

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It simply confirms how watered down the league is compared to the 80's and 90's era.

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I simply don't get how you can think this with the internationals adding so much talent to the pool.

Here are Smush's numbers the past 2 years:

11.5 points, 44.7% shooting, 52.4% eFG%, 3.7 assists, 3.3 rebounds, 1.7 steals

11.1 points, 43.6% shooting, 50.6% eFG%, 2.8 assists, 3.3 rebounds, 1.5 steals



You say that him starting shows the league isn't as deep as it was in the 80s. Well in the 1985 and 1986 seasons a guy by the name of Jay Humphries started all 82 games for the Phoenix Suns. His numbers those years:

11.0 points, 47.9% shooting, 48.2% eFG%, 6.4 assists, 3.2 rebounds, 1.6 steals

11.3 points, 47.7% shooting, 48.0% eFG%, 7.7 assists, 3.2 rebounds, 1.4 steals


Other than assists he seems like a very very similar player to Parker. And I think Smush Parker's assist numbers are clearly kept down by playing in the Triangle Offense where PGs usually don't put up big assist numbers(take a look at Phil Jackson's Chicago teams for similar results). I think its very fair to assume that Smush could add 3 more assists in a traditional offense.

How about the 90s, you ask? In 1994 and 1995 Derek Harper started 80 and 82 games. Here were his numbers from those years:

11.5 points, 44.6% shooting, 51.6% eFG%, 5.7 assists, 2.4 rebounds, 1.0 steals

14.0 points, 46.4% shooting, 52.9% eFG%, 4.3 assists, 2.5 rebounds, 1.6 steals

Again other than assists the numbers are right in the same ballpark.


There were plenty of bad players and teams in the 80s and 90s, and there were plenty bad players that started for a limited time on some of those teams. I don't know why we romantisize those eras so much and conveniently only remember the great players.

Artdogg 07-30-2007 07:25 PM

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There were plenty of bad players and teams in the 80s and 90s, and there were plenty bad players that started for a limited time on some of those teams. I don't know why we romantisize those eras so much and conveniently only remember the great players.

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the main reason for all this is people think jordan=jesus

FUJItheFISH 07-31-2007 02:08 AM

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haha bye bye smush. in other news, coby karl is the newest laker. i am very excited for the work ethic and attitude he has on the court.

Taraz 07-31-2007 04:19 AM

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It simply confirms how watered down the league is compared to the 80's and 90's era.

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I simply don't get how you can think this with the internationals adding so much talent to the pool.

Here are Smush's numbers the past 2 years:

11.5 points, 44.7% shooting, 52.4% eFG%, 3.7 assists, 3.3 rebounds, 1.7 steals

11.1 points, 43.6% shooting, 50.6% eFG%, 2.8 assists, 3.3 rebounds, 1.5 steals



You say that him starting shows the league isn't as deep as it was in the 80s. Well in the 1985 and 1986 seasons a guy by the name of Jay Humphries started all 82 games for the Phoenix Suns. His numbers those years:

11.0 points, 47.9% shooting, 48.2% eFG%, 6.4 assists, 3.2 rebounds, 1.6 steals

11.3 points, 47.7% shooting, 48.0% eFG%, 7.7 assists, 3.2 rebounds, 1.4 steals


Other than assists he seems like a very very similar player to Parker. And I think Smush Parker's assist numbers are clearly kept down by playing in the Triangle Offense where PGs usually don't put up big assist numbers(take a look at Phil Jackson's Chicago teams for similar results). I think its very fair to assume that Smush could add 3 more assists in a traditional offense.

How about the 90s, you ask? In 1994 and 1995 Derek Harper started 80 and 82 games. Here were his numbers from those years:

11.5 points, 44.6% shooting, 51.6% eFG%, 5.7 assists, 2.4 rebounds, 1.0 steals

14.0 points, 46.4% shooting, 52.9% eFG%, 4.3 assists, 2.5 rebounds, 1.6 steals

Again other than assists the numbers are right in the same ballpark.


There were plenty of bad players and teams in the 80s and 90s, and there were plenty bad players that started for a limited time on some of those teams. I don't know why we romantisize those eras so much and conveniently only remember the great players.

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Not to squash on your overall point, but you chose some bad analogies. I agree that the league isn't as watered down as some would say. But Derek Harper was a beast on defense compared to Smush. Smush's D is beyond awful. And 4 assists a game is a very substantial number. I realize Smush plays in the triangle so that could conceivably cut down on his turnovers, but have you seen him play? It's not like he has great vision or anything.

Smush is actually an awful basketball player for the NBA game. This doesn't necessarily mean the NBA is watered down though.

Assani Fisher 07-31-2007 10:11 AM

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Yeah I'll admit that I didn't watch the NBA as much back then, so when I compare players from back then its solely based on numbers and I miss out on things like defensive ability in my analysis.

Cortz 07-31-2007 10:56 AM

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there isnt a nba offseason thread going on is there that is hotly active...oh no there isnt


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