$400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 

Villain is A___r___K on PP for the players that play there and know who he is. For those that don't know him, he is 23/17/2.5 over a decent sample.

Party Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$2/$4 Blinds
5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $107.85
Hero (BB): $491.00
UTG: $433.10
CO: $451.00
BTN: $1,231.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $16.00</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $14.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $64.00</font>, UTG calls $48.00, SB folds

Flop: ($144) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero....</font>

What is the best line here? I was really confused in this situation and had no idea what the best line to take was... Thanks for your help.

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 

Sick flop. I'd check/call and take it from there usually. This guys range is going to be pretty tight. Not too sure if thats a great line though.

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 

Yea I like c/cing here. If we bet this and get raised we might as well have K3o. I'd probably c/f to a large turn bet unimproved.

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 

im villain in this hand but cant actually remember it or your sn but i think check folding to big turn bet unimproved would be pretty terribe vs me .

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 

I'd bet/fold the flop for 100 if he's good. If you check/call flop I think he'll always be shoving the turn. At least this way you don't get bluffed out by like 88 or something.

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 

unless he has a straight you have at least 40% equity. i'd probably have to go with the hand against a villain with those stats, esp if he's good/aggro

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 

If hes good his preflop range absolutely crushes our hand now. Man I have similar stats and usually pretty much every hand I have given preflop is now ahead. He won't have [censored] like 88 in his hand often enough to worry about getting bluffed.

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 

You built an SPR of about 7 (read PNL). Against an aggressive opponent, I think you just need to get the money in by betting/calling any flop raise or betting flop/turn.

Against someone more straight forward, well, I may bet/fold the flop (so many draws, sets etc should auto all in here). If I'm not raised on the flop, then might was well just bet the turn all in. You would have too much in the pot vs stack size to just fold so might as well be you sticking it in.

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 

check

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 

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check

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c/c? c/f?

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 

Jay,

People call with stuff like 88 all the time vs my 3bets, especially in position. Whether or not you do it, I'd imagine it at least happens against you though, right?

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 

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You built an SPR of about 7 (read PNL). Against an aggressive opponent, I think you just need to get the money in by betting/calling any flop raise or betting flop/turn.

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I didn't get any of this.

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 

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You built an SPR of about 7 (read PNL). Against an aggressive opponent, I think you just need to get the money in by betting/calling any flop raise or betting flop/turn.

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I didn't get any of this.

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SPR= stack to pot ratio. It's from that new twoplustwo book (which is pretty meh overall).

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 

BTW jus spent 10 mins searchin for this hand in my pokertracker and i had 99 and folded to his flop bet

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 

b/c flop

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 

Raise to 80 preflop.Check-call flop, reevaluate turn.

Re: $400NL. KK in 3-bet pot. No idea what to do on the flop....
 

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Raise to 80 preflop.Check-call flop, reevaluate turn.

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$80 PF? Thats a pretty large raise. Why so big?