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luckychewy 07-25-2007 09:31 PM

early stars $320 150k gntd hand
 
PokerStars Game #11135710188: Tournament #56058783, $300+$20 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/07/25 - 21:22:12 (ET)
Table '56058783 54' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: jdepa01fcp (3520 in chips)
Seat 2: lucaduc (2560 in chips)
Seat 3: ScGdynia (2760 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: VIDEOBOX.COM (2935 in chips)
Seat 5: asellers07 (2710 in chips)
Seat 6: graybone (2430 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: Mr. Tim Caum (2065 in chips)
Seat 8: -BBJ- (7195 in chips)
Seat 9: RunThisTable (2570 in chips)
lucaduc: posts small blind 15
ScGdynia: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RunThisTable [Ac Kd]
VIDEOBOX.COM: calls 30
asellers07: calls 30
graybone: folds
Mr. Tim Caum: folds
-BBJ-: folds
RunThisTable: raises 120 to 150
jdepa01fcp: calls 150
lucaduc: folds
ScGdynia: folds
VIDEOBOX.COM: calls 120
asellers07: raises 2560 to 2710 and is all-in
RunThisTable:

i mean, wtf is this...?

should i just call it off for obvious reasons or fold cause of awesome structure? i don't know anything about this guy fwiw.

Ship Ship McGipp 07-25-2007 09:41 PM

Re: early stars $320 150k gntd hand
 
this guy is the biggest spew monkey in the world, call

Bakes 07-25-2007 10:02 PM

Re: early stars $320 150k gntd hand
 
yeah i would call too.

as an aside, i'm glad that it was actually a good player that called my deuces last night out than a donkey. i never knew your sn.

luckychewy 07-25-2007 10:04 PM

Re: early stars $320 150k gntd hand
 
haha i thought u knew it was me or i wouldn't have said anything.

luckychewy 07-26-2007 04:14 AM

Re: early stars $320 150k gntd hand
 
anyone else?

i think if his range is primarily pairs it's a fold because i'm taking such a small edge this early(assuming he never has aa/kk), and as stupid as it sounds i think i can find a better spot. obviously if he has some unpaired hands in his range it becomes a clear call, and a call cannot be awful here of course.

anyway i suppose i'm just looking for someone to tell me they have seen unknowns make this play w/ less than just pairs, and occasionaly show up w/ stupid random unpaired stuff.

shaniac 07-26-2007 04:49 AM

Re: early stars $320 150k gntd hand
 
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this guy is the biggest spew monkey in the world, call

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I think I'd fold unless I knew this.

Soulman 07-26-2007 08:02 AM

Re: early stars $320 150k gntd hand
 
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[ QUOTE ]
this guy is the biggest spew monkey in the world, call

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I think I'd fold unless I knew this.

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Definitely. What logical range can you put him on that you're ahead of? I would never ever put him on less than AK or PPs here in a vacuum.

sigurrostyp 07-26-2007 10:08 AM

Re: early stars $320 150k gntd hand
 
i fold just because the structure to the tourny is so awesome and you have to call off your chips so early with Ace hi. It really is irrelevant what he has. Thats unless you want to gambooooooooollllllllll

Exitonly 07-26-2007 10:27 AM

Re: early stars $320 150k gntd hand
 
What do you think villain would be doing w/ AQ?

I dont really know him, but given the weird action in the hand, and aejones saying he's a spewmonkey, i'm guessing AQ is in the range, and we gotta call.

bluesbassman 07-26-2007 10:32 AM

Re: early stars $320 150k gntd hand
 
By my calculation, you are getting about 1.13 to 1, and against a hand like JJ you are 47% to 53% to win. So your cEV is about 2578 for a call. Meh, I guess I fold and hope I'm the one to get his stack later.

Edit: If I have a read that Ax is in his range, I call.

registrar 07-26-2007 10:37 AM

Re: early stars $320 150k gntd hand
 
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Edit: If I have a read that Ax is in his range, I call.

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It's an easy call if anything other than AK and XX is ever in his range. I don't know him but I would guess it has to be.

luckychewy 07-26-2007 10:44 AM

Re: early stars $320 150k gntd hand
 
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What do you think villain would be doing w/ AQ?

I dont really know him, but given the weird action in the hand, and aejones saying he's a spewmonkey, i'm guessing AQ is in the range, and we gotta call.

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well w/ AQ i expect him to raise the limper first time around, or just call my raise. again though, this assumes an unknown. At the time I had no idea who the dude was. Clearly if I knew he was a spew monkey i'd snap call.

Bond18 07-26-2007 02:31 PM

Re: early stars $320 150k gntd hand
 
Unless i know he's a nut, i likely fold.

luckychewy 07-26-2007 03:50 PM

Re: early stars $320 150k gntd hand
 
yea, i did fold. this just happened though which makes me feel less comfortable about it. obv it's a different tournament but the two tournaments are probably fairly close on the donkishness scale.

Full Tilt Poker Game #3063778747: $32,000 Guarantee (22245168), Table 21 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:45:00 ET - 2007/07/26
Seat 1: Bigboss1000 (3,330)
Seat 2: Santanico (765)
Seat 3: thakilla (2,755)
Seat 4: Tatute (4,506)
Seat 5: luckychewy (3,110)
Seat 6: donttakeshots (3,505)
Seat 7: insanocut (2,800)
Seat 8: redshirt (5,230)
Seat 9: blue_48 (6,815)
donttakeshots posts the small blind of 25
insanocut posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to luckychewy [3c 2s]
redshirt calls 50
blue_48 calls 50
Bigboss1000 folds
Santanico calls 50
thakilla calls 50
Tatute raises to 399
luckychewy folds
donttakeshots has 15 seconds left to act
donttakeshots folds
insanocut folds
redshirt folds
blue_48 has 15 seconds left to act
blue_48 raises to 2,500
Santanico folds
thakilla folds
Tatute has 15 seconds left to act
Tatute has requested TIME
Tatute raises to 4,506, and is all in
blue_48 has 15 seconds left to act
blue_48 calls 2,006
Tatute shows [Jd Jc]
blue_48 shows [Th Qc]
*** FLOP *** [7h Ah Tc]
*** TURN *** [7h Ah Tc] [As]
*** RIVER *** [7h Ah Tc As] [5c]
Tatute shows two pair, Aces and Jacks
blue_48 shows two pair, Aces and Tens
Tatute wins the pot (9,237) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9,237 | Rake 0
Board: [7h Ah Tc As 5c]
Seat 1: Bigboss1000 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Santanico folded before the Flop
Seat 3: thakilla folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Tatute showed [Jd Jc] and won (9,237) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 5: luckychewy (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: donttakeshots (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: insanocut (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: redshirt folded before the Flop
Seat 9: blue_48 showed [Th Qc] and lost with two pair, Aces and Tens


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