.05/.1 Limp button with 53s? Cap flop?
 

Is this right, or do I fold (or raise?)? Cap flop is spew or no? Check behind turn good or bad?

Confused about this one...

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls, SB folds.

Flop: (9 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: (10.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero folds, BB calls.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB

Re: .05/.1 Limp button with 53s? Cap flop?
 

Not enough callers to limp with 53s OTB.

I would just call the flop. I don't want BB 3 betting and potentially knocking UTG out and charging us the maximum. I also want to preserve our implied odds when we hit. Lastly, alot of villains will check the turn if they didn't hit the flop, so you might get a free card anyway.

As played the flop cap doesn't really lose any money unless someone has a higher flush draw, however you lessen your implied odds if you hit. On the other hand you might get a free card. The problem is BB should be betting a blank turn when you cap the flop, since your hand looks alot like a draw, and he should probably check when a 3 flush card appears. This is the opposite of what you want to happen when you cap the flop.

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I normally fold this will only two limpers.

Postflop is good.

Re: .05/.1 Limp button with 53s? Cap flop?
 

I fold 53s PF 5-handed... is this 6-max?

postflop is great.

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I don't play short-handed, I would call that with a couple of bets before me long-handed in the button. This is a highly speculative hand.
I would just call the 3-bet on the flop. The turn check is fine, you got your free card so take it. If these are weak-passive players you might bet to take the pot right there, but BB might raise if this is not the case.
The river is a fold. You have nothing.

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If these are weak-passive players you might bet to take the pot right there, but BB might raise if this is not the case.

[/ QUOTE ]I thought about it but they were more the type to call down with King high than fold any hand.

Re: .05/.1 Limp button with 53s? Cap flop?
 

fold pf.
flop raise is okay; i would tend not to though.
and flop cap is spew.

Re: .05/.1 Limp button with 53s? Cap flop?
 

About the shorthanded comments, am I better off in full ring doing these things since I will have way more players in the pot? Except for medium pocket pairs I think I play post-flop well enough. Basically, can I expect less variance playing full ring?

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yes

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yes

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oh btw, many people say its boring, but thats b/c they played so much SH that they cant FR anymore xD

Re: .05/.1 Limp button with 53s? Cap flop?
 

sh has more variance, partially because there are so many more decisions to be made and you play a lot more hands with lots of decisions in them

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About the shorthanded comments, am I better off in full ring doing these things since I will have way more players in the pot?

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Yes. I play shorthanded exclusively and very rarely raise for free cards. Players are aggro and often deny the free card, and usually not enough players are in the hand to get immediate value. I remember back when I played fullring I used to free card/value raise with draws alot.

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Not enough callers to limp with 53s OTB.

I would just call the flop. I don't want BB 3 betting and potentially knocking UTG out and charging us the maximum. I also want to preserve our implied odds when we hit. Lastly, alot of villains will check the turn if they didn't hit the flop, so you might get a free card anyway.

As played the flop cap doesn't really lose any money unless someone has a higher flush draw, however you lessen your implied odds if you hit. On the other hand you might get a free card. The problem is BB should be betting a blank turn when you cap the flop, since your hand looks alot like a draw, and he should probably check when a 3 flush card appears. This is the opposite of what you want to happen when you cap the flop.

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In generally I don't worry about knocking the player out inbetween us as players don't seem like to putting money in a street and then folding the hand. ATt 5cent/10cent I don't even consider it.

I agree about the implied odds. It would be a better play if there was an extra person in the hand.

While BB should certainly be leading a blank turn if he thinks hero could be on a draw, I don't see very many good players doing this consistantly and bad ones won't even consider it (they might randomly donk but not for this specific reason).

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and flop cap is spew.

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That's just not true... you can certainly debate that it's not the right play but spew it is not.

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oh btw, many people say its boring, but thats b/c they played so much SH that they cant FR anymore xD

[/ QUOTE ]I played about 6 orbits full ring just now {.1/.2}. Everyone was sooooo passive. Is this standard? It's like bizzaro world relative to 6-max. I hate it FWIW. Heh.