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AcTiOnJaCsOn 07-21-2007 09:38 PM

Moving up to highstakes
 
I was curious to get some advice to people who have made the transition before. I play anywhere from 2-4/5/10 mostly and have good results (over 4 pt BB/100) . How should i adjust to 10/20?

shawny boy 07-21-2007 09:47 PM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
play more hands

praios 07-21-2007 09:49 PM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
paly like 5/10

AcTiOnJaCsOn 07-21-2007 09:51 PM

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play more hands

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seriously? Wouldnt i want to play less hands since there better players than at lower stakes?

cachews 07-21-2007 10:49 PM

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play more hands

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seriously? Wouldnt i want to play less hands since there better players than at lower stakes?

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at higher stakes people will respect your raises

poker12 07-21-2007 10:49 PM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
lol

07-21-2007 11:39 PM

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07-21-2007 11:40 PM

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rand 07-22-2007 12:28 AM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
blueman can you suggest some good coaches? i have a few guys i wouldnt mind talking to but i think they are really expensive

like i heard krantz coaches but hes like 500/hr, anyone worth my time.money at <200/hr?

im doin well in 2,4 and i like my game alot but it feels kind of stagnant...

(and yeah i konw about the thread)

07-22-2007 12:29 AM

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07-22-2007 01:45 AM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
GRIND HARDER

the_dal_kid 07-22-2007 03:34 AM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
QUIT POKER

skier_5 07-22-2007 04:14 AM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
it's a huge difference, the regs are 100x harder, and in general it's a lot tougher to win. I have a feeling that coaching for a few hours should help a ton, but I'm not sure. Just know it will take effort and time and that it is a huge difference.

Ansky 07-22-2007 04:56 AM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
2 words:

Agressive Calling.

xxThe_Lebowskixx 07-22-2007 05:17 AM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
5 words:

time machine back to 2005

ebarnet 07-22-2007 06:25 AM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
Beating 2/4 for 4PTBB is such a sinch(?sp). If ur just gonna jump straight into 10/20 you're going to get eaten alive. I'm sure that the 10/20 regs are gonna hate me for telling u this cuz u must have just won the lottery or something to want to try what you're talking about. But they already hate me anyway.

Bill King 07-22-2007 06:53 AM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
run good-er

PsYcOsNiPeR 09-28-2007 11:43 PM

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Beating 2/4 for 4PTBB is such a sinch(?sp). If ur just gonna jump straight into 10/20 you're going to get eaten alive. I'm sure that the 10/20 regs are gonna hate me for telling u this cuz u must have just won the lottery or something to want to try what you're talking about. But they already hate me anyway.

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he won the sunday mil ldo

shootaa 09-29-2007 02:46 AM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
never raise preflop, theyre too tricky at 10/20 for that move.

Ship Ship McGipp 09-29-2007 03:15 AM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
bump, vnh actionjacson good thread

fitnessfreak 09-29-2007 03:25 AM

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like i heard krantz coaches but hes like 500/hr, anyone worth my time.money at <200/hr?


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pretty sure krantz is charging alot more than 500/hr these days. doubt ur gonna get a very good coach for under 200/hr tho.

imabigdeal 09-29-2007 01:37 PM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
i honestly can't believe people would pay that much to get coached. if you aren't a winning player it seems like it'd be very easy to just go over stats and HH's and figure out what you're doing wrong and fix it.

cowpig 09-29-2007 03:10 PM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
yep pretty easy

NHFunkii 09-29-2007 03:31 PM

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i honestly can't believe people would pay that much to get coached. if you aren't a winning player it seems like it'd be very easy to just go over stats and HH's and figure out what you're doing wrong and fix it.

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agreed, if people were just a little smarter I think everyone could be a winning player

Kyuss 09-29-2007 04:02 PM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
4PTBB/100 is nothing, what about that makes you think you can move up to high stakes!?!? My entire month not a single day was under 10PTBB/100 at 2/4 and I have not even considered moving up to high stakes.

Jamie217 09-29-2007 07:40 PM

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4PTBB/100 is nothing, what about that makes you think you can move up to high stakes!?!? My entire month not a single day was under 10PTBB/100 at 2/4 and I have not even considered moving up to high stakes.

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You havent had a losing day for a month ?
Id like to see what that looks like

GeezyTehSnowman 09-29-2007 07:51 PM

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like i heard krantz coaches but hes like 500/hr, anyone worth my time.money at <200/hr?


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pretty sure krantz is charging alot more than 500/hr these days. doubt ur gonna get a very good coach for under 200/hr tho.

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who the [censored] is paying that kind of money to hear some advice that won't even be applicable in like a few months?

Donkey-Milker 09-29-2007 07:54 PM

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like i heard krantz coaches but hes like 500/hr, anyone worth my time.money at <200/hr?


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pretty sure krantz is charging alot more than 500/hr these days. doubt ur gonna get a very good coach for under 200/hr tho.

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who the [censored] is paying that kind of money to hear some advice that won't even be applicable in like a few months?

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level? poker will still be the same game.. moran

faarcyde 09-29-2007 07:57 PM

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like i heard krantz coaches but hes like 500/hr, anyone worth my time.money at <200/hr?


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pretty sure krantz is charging alot more than 500/hr these days. doubt ur gonna get a very good coach for under 200/hr tho.

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who the [censored] is paying that kind of money to hear some advice that won't even be applicable in like a few months?

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level? poker will still be the same game.. moran

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You spelled moron wrong.

LucidDream 09-29-2007 08:29 PM

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like i heard krantz coaches but hes like 500/hr, anyone worth my time.money at <200/hr?


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pretty sure krantz is charging alot more than 500/hr these days. doubt ur gonna get a very good coach for under 200/hr tho.

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who the [censored] is paying that kind of money to hear some advice that won't even be applicable in like a few months?

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LOL...u must be one of those feed me players that doesn't think on his own.

AAismyfriend 09-29-2007 08:34 PM

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4PTBB/100 is nothing, what about that makes you think you can move up to high stakes!?!? My entire month not a single day was under 10PTBB/100 at 2/4 and I have not even considered moving up to high stakes.

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good luck sustaining that

straate 09-29-2007 08:47 PM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
wow some of this advice is just awful


the difference between 10/20 and lower limits is on 10/20 people are VERY GOOD postflop and its a LOT harder to tilt them. 5/10 is so easy to tilt people and everyone is pretty awful/weak/readable postflop.

Kyuss 09-29-2007 10:16 PM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
lol I didn't mean I won every single day.. when I'm down in a session I take short naps(not full, 8hour sleep) and get up and grind my way back until I'm in the black even if it crosses over 2 days.. so in my mind that's still the same day lol.

Kyuss 09-29-2007 10:18 PM

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the difference between 10/20 and lower limits is on 10/20 people are VERY GOOD postflop and its a LOT harder to tilt them. 5/10 is so easy to tilt people and everyone is pretty awful/weak/readable postflop.

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Or another way of putting it is, the LAG style of annoying small raises to tilt opponents into making a stand with you on your big hands works well in SSNL and MSNL, but HSNL guys would simply not get involved with you. They are a lot more patient and know what they're doing once the money's in.

imabigdeal 09-29-2007 10:30 PM

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i honestly can't believe people would pay that much to get coached. if you aren't a winning player it seems like it'd be very easy to just go over stats and HH's and figure out what you're doing wrong and fix it.

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agreed, if people were just a little smarter I think everyone could be a winning player

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i understand what you're saying. what i meant was that i find it hard to believe that people say, "wow i'm just not winning and i can't figure out what i'm doing wrong, i should go hire a poker coach (lol) for 500/hr and get this straightened out". and then, they get coached and they automatically turn into a winning player. maybe it happens more than i think, idk i could easily be wrong. i guess i'm biased cause i've never really had a problem winning consistently and even if i did i wouldn't potentially waste even more money on a coach.

Kyuss 09-30-2007 12:13 AM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
Paying $300-500 an hour for a good coach seems a lot of money, but think of how many $300+ pots you'll be involved in over the next month? How many of them you'll lose? How many you'll misplay? If paying a guy $300 for just one hour will cut down your misplayed big pots by just 1, that's already your money back.

That's why a good, reputable coach whom many players can recommend, is worth the money.

Redgrape 09-30-2007 01:25 AM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
stats or ban Kyuss.

BobboFitos 09-30-2007 01:34 AM

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stats or ban Kyuss.

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why not ban him anyway? Where is the AZK modlight pic?

Xaston 09-30-2007 03:27 AM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
10/20 regulars will make you wanna kill yourself.

9-tabling 2/4 is just something to do while you're watching Seinfeld.

There's your difference.

LucidDream 09-30-2007 03:27 AM

Re: Moving up to highstakes
 
Datamines with Kyuss's winrates do exist.


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