Hand Against the Beale
 

Playing against Howard. Howard only plays AK or better. He knows I am going out of my way to beat him in a hand.

He raises and middle position with a twinkle in his eye. fold to me in the BB with 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Flop is 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I donk . . . and ask Howard politely to raise. He calls. This scares me.

Plan for the rest of the hand assuming I don't turn the virtual nuts?

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open fold?

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lol

There are so few holdings you have to worry about. He's probably just peeling here.

But Even if he has 77 the hand plays itself almost the same as vs AA.

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Howard's a weak tighty. 3-bet preflop to increase fold equity!

Seriously though, I like how this hand is played so far.
Your attempt to bet/3town the flop is sexy. This board is drawy and your holdings are unknown so Howard should rarely have an overpair here. Bet almost all turns and your river action should depend on what the turn card is.

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All in.

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I like how this is going so far. What to do, what to do? Plus, it's 'weird' that such a nice fellow wants my head as a trophy (as if he wasn't winning enough already!)

ps: Only plays AK or better. As if. I REALLY wish you'd been around a few more hours when the game got insane.

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I left partly because those two kids to my left were just too annoying to play with. Although thehy were spewing money.

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Really about the overpair? You think he flat calls with high-bags? I think he either snap raises or folds to my donk bet with AK.

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Fire away. I only play AK or better also. Just ask Howard Beale. I might be coming back soon if I can ever get out of new york lol.

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He is more likely to raise overpairs than overcards. He should read your bet as an attempt to 3-bet, esp. if he knows who you are.

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I left partly because those two kids to my left were just too annoying to play with. Although thehy were spewing money.

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The guy on your direct left talks a good game and I think is trying to be a working pro. He has some knowledge and sometimes plays good but I've got a long history against him. Remember the hand that I called along w/ 99 against the raiser on your right, the one I figured was 50/50 to have AK? When I mentioned that was the reason I was calling you sort of waived at that guy who was in the hand also as if to say 'but what about him?' Well, I 'knew' he had Ace high only. Worse, when the bettor was too dumb to bet his Queens on the river I thought I was the winner.

The guy 2 seats to your left I rarely play against (I see him more in the 5-150) and I REALLY didn't like the way he runs his mouth. If he wasn't blasting thru his chips I might've said something. Later on in the night I checked behind him w/ a FH which induced him to bet the river and he paid me off. Then he starts to complain to his buddy about my play. He went busto eventually, if that's any consolation.

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Fire away. I only play AK or better also. Just ask Howard Beale. I might be coming back soon if I can ever get out of new york lol.

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That's right. drbk2 only plays AK or better.





hahahahahahahahaha!

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The one directly to my left played every hand. He was decent after the flop though. That other kid had about 10K in his wallet.

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The one directly to my left played every hand. He was decent after the flop though. That other kid had about 10K in his wallet.

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Directly to your left has a very big ego problem. Steams, too. The other guy I just don't like and that's very, very rare for me to say. VERY rare.

Edit to add:

Taking mom to dinner/movie. Back in a few.

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This is interesting that you were confused when he called. I wanted to post a hand against Howard yesterday where he just called when I was expecting a raise or fold. I couldn't remember enough details because it was a few weeks ago so I didn't post it.

I believe that he would fold AK or the like to your donk 99% of the time. I may have my read wrong but I'm checking the turn if I don't make my straight. I can't see him not raising an overpair here though either.

I'm confused again.... thanks Howard.

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This is interesting that you were confused when he called. I wanted to post a hand against Howard yesterday where he just called when I was expecting a raise or fold. I couldn't remember enough details because it was a few weeks ago so I didn't post it.

I believe that he would fold AK or the like to your donk 99% of the time. I may have my read wrong but I'm checking the turn if I don't make my straight. I can't see him not raising an overpair here though either.

I'm confused again.... thanks Howard.

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Good. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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He would be playing way too straightforwards, and therefore wrongly if he only raised/folded. I peel oh so much.

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He would be playing way too straightforwards, and therefore wrongly if he only raised/folded. I peel oh so much.

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Well I know that. It was one of those situations where a raise or fold is just what you expect. The call on the turn was what really had me going. I'll tell you about the hand in person, if I ever introduce myself.

I think Howard had me scared because the night before I wasn't running so hot and he 3 bet my PFR 158 times in a row. Now he calls, WTF?

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This is interesting that you were confused when he called. I wanted to post a hand against Howard yesterday where he just called when I was expecting a raise or fold. I couldn't remember enough details because it was a few weeks ago so I didn't post it.

I believe that he would fold AK or the like to your donk 99% of the time. I may have my read wrong but I'm checking the turn if I don't make my straight. I can't see him not raising an overpair here though either.

I'm confused again.... thanks Howard.

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Good. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I knew you would like that.

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This is interesting that you were confused when he called. I wanted to post a hand against Howard yesterday where he just called when I was expecting a raise or fold. I couldn't remember enough details because it was a few weeks ago so I didn't post it.

I believe that he would fold AK or the like to your donk 99% of the time. I may have my read wrong but I'm checking the turn if I don't make my straight. I can't see him not raising an overpair here though either.

I'm confused again.... thanks Howard.

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Good. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I knew you would like that.

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I really shouldn't be smug considering the embarassment you've saved me. Anyway, I don't think it's my place to reveal what happened but I'll just say that I pretty much knew what sort of hand OP had (pair + draw, flush draw w/ overs. Some 'medium' piece of the flop at any rate and not anything huge). I also know that he's expecting a raise so I didn't accomodate him. Yet.

TURN AND RIVER
 

Its 2 in the morning and Im writing a best man speech but really want to head back to CAZ to see if the 6/12 S8B game is running.

Anyway, I think he raises anyhand that isn;t slaughtering me and I think my donk showed I had a medium piece of the flop, so I think leading anyturn is wrong.

Turn Qc. I check/call. River Jc, I check, he bets . . . I . .

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Yuck. Bet the turn. As played, get rid of it.

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Its 2 in the morning and Im writing a best man speech but really want to head back to CAZ to see if the 6/12 S8B game is running.

Anyway, I think he raises anyhand that isn;t slaughtering me and I think my donk showed I had a medium piece of the flop, so I think leading anyturn is wrong.

Turn Qc. I check/call. River Jc, I check, he bets . . . I . .

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Fold.

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Fold. 2 paint cards just got there. Only thing you're beating now is AK/AT and I think he gives up with those a good chunk of the time.

That said, there's no he should be able to put you on a weak hand right now. Your bet/3-bet range here should include 2 pairs, sets and combo draws.

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Its 2 in the morning and Im writing a best man speech but really want to head back to CAZ to see if the 6/12 S8B game is running.

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Less than a 10% chance it is running at 2am on a Monday night. It usually requires the same 4-5 people just to get and interest list going for that game. Early afternoons is usually the time most of them are there...also weekend evenings usually sees it go, but again, it doesn't go very late.