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I was just wondering if anyone has any guesses as to about how many pros legitimately make $1 a hand or more? I'm talking about online pros of course and your guess as to how many make $1 a hand over a large sample(250k or more hands we'll say).

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about 6

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cts, aba, and KRANTZ

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I'm probably capable of losing $1 a hand, need a bigger sample size to say for sure.

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I wasn't asking for the # of times you've gotten laid

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Anyone who averages 10bb/100 lifetime at 5/10 and above?

Edit: Or 5bb/100 at 10/20. Or 4bb/100 at 10/25. Or 2bb/100 at 25/50...

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Well a Poker Tracker BB/100 is 2x the BB. So that would be 5ptbb/100 at 5/10 for $1 a hand

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who cares. i hate u leatherass. u sir are teh ghey

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who cares. i hate u leatherass. u sir are teh ghey

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This can be done live playing 20-40 limit or 2-5 no-limit. It might be possible at 15-30 limit.

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This can be done live playing 20-40 limit or 2-5 no-limit. It might be possible at 15-30 limit.

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too bad the 250k hand requirement means you will be 80 by the time you can call yourself a $1/hand winner

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$1 a hand? it would be pretty sad if i wasn't making that in the games i play.

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most winning 10/20 NL players will make 1$ hand.

a few 5/10 players will.

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This can be done live playing 20-40 limit or 2-5 no-limit. It might be possible at 15-30 limit.

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too bad the 250k hand requirement means you will be 80 by the time you can call yourself a $1/hand winner

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That requirement is arbitrary.

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I was just wondering if anyone has any guesses as to about how many pros legitimately make $1 a hand or more?

[/ QUOTE ] any good player in a live 15/30 limit game makes more than $1/hand...

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a few 5/10 players will.

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Oh come on now people. Most regular 5/10 players should be making $1/hand if they are playing 4-6 tables or less.

Now 3/6 is where making $1/hand is tough.

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Uh you do know that that is 5ptbb/100 right? These aren't the old party poker days. That is a vgood win rate now.

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Uh you do know that that is 5ptbb/100 right? These aren't the old party poker days. That is a vgood win rate now.

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Yes, I am well aware of win rates, ptbb, the old days, etc. It's just that it's a pet peeve of mine that people spout that a mediocre win rate is the "ceiling" of win rates, so that everyone feels like they are hot shiits that are winning as much as you can at a certain level.

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The point is 'MOST' regulars will not win at 5 ptbb/100 at 5/10+.

Few will, and they are the best players at that level. $1/hand at 5/10 is an excellent win rate.

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Uh you do know that that is 5ptbb/100 right? These aren't the old party poker days. That is a vgood win rate now.

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Yes, I am well aware of win rates, ptbb, the old days, etc. It's just that it's a pet peeve of mine that people spout that a mediocre win rate is the "ceiling" of win rates, so that everyone feels like they are hot shiits that are winning as much as you can at a certain level.

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Who's doing this? I'm confused.

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Making $1/hand live is easy.

I think a realistic level where a regular will generate $1/hand online is 40/80 limit and 10/20NL, which are roughly equivalent stakes.

Ive heard people say 30/60 or as low as 20/40, but it requires a fairly unrealistically high winrate for someone who multi tables and is willing to play in tougher games at that level. If you want to be really anal about game selection, you can probably do $1/hand as low as 5/10 limit and just wait for complete maniacs, but that's obviously not practical.

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Dealers?

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\ If you want to be really anal about game selection, you can probably do $1/hand as low as 5/10 limit and just wait for complete maniacs, but that's obviously not practical.

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Is this live or online? Either way I would be willing to take a lot of action that this is impossible

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If you've never sat at a table where 10BB/100 is possible, then you're doing something wrong.

There is a guy on AP who'se loserate is upwards of -50BB/100. In his presence, i am for sure averaging $1/hand at 5/10.

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$1 a hand is easy for 50k hands, not for 250k hands. who here who thinks $1 a hand is easy has actually won $1 a hand for 250k hands??

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Well played sir.

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$1 a hand is easy for 50k hands, not for 250k hands. who here who thinks $1 a hand is easy has actually won $1 a hand for 250k hands??

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I have. I play some 10/20 though but mostly 5/10. That being said, I did have an almost 100k breakeven streak before the last ~300k hands.

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Uh you do know that that is 5ptbb/100 right? These aren't the old party poker days. That is a vgood win rate now.

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Yes, I am well aware of win rates, ptbb, the old days, etc. It's just that it's a pet peeve of mine that people spout that a mediocre win rate is the "ceiling" of win rates, so that everyone feels like they are hot shiits that are winning as much as you can at a certain level.

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uhhh didn't everyone used to run around talking about how easy it was for a decent player to make 5 ptbb/100 and then someone posted a massive datamine of partypoker games and only one player was actually doing it over a reasonable sample size at 5/10?

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Anyone got a link to that?

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This is totally true. With poker as tough as it is today I can guarantee you that there are very few players with a WR of above 5ptbb/100 at 5/10 over more than 250k hands. As far as 10/20 goes. My guess is that there are less than 5. Of course if some of the real great players like Aba or Durr..etc. played 10/20 I'm sure there would be quite a few more.

Most people imo have no clue how good you have to be to beat 5/10 for 5ptbb/100. Plus it is all a bit unfair as it depends on how well you game select as well as how many tables you play. If I always picked the 2 best tables and just grinded on them I'm sure I could win around 10ptbb/100. But I 8 table and not all of my games are all that great so your WR gets crushed when that's the case.

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leatherass, i have no opinion of u as a player or person, but i do feel like u miss the intended tone of twoplustwo every time

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I enjoy getting completely wacked and watching people sniff coke. Yet i do n't sniff. But it's funny when white's sniff coke and dope and do black magic.

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It's just that it's a pet peeve of mine that people spout that a mediocre win rate is the "ceiling" of win rates, so that everyone feels like they are hot shiits that are winning as much as you can at a certain level.

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Who cares its all about the hourly son

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ty sir

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ty sir

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One question for you leatherass: Are you intentionally being a douchebag by not sitting out of games when someone is playing heads up, or when people are trying to flip?

If you do this on purpose, you're a POS.

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leatherass,

quit sitting in on games when both players ask you nicely to let them play hu.

Also, based on your latest blog posts, I hope for your sake you don't come crashing down to reality anytime soon.

gl

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these old guys roam in packs!! abd theyre vicious too!!!!