100NL AA c/r AI
 

Villian is 23/5/0,61 100 hands, is this a call? What is his possible range here?


Carlos Rustenburg 0.50/1, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | <font color="#C00000"></font>

Button ($38.10)
SB ($162.79)
BB ($100)
UTG <font color="#C00000">UTG ($105.08)</font>
UTG+1 ($79.44)
CO <font color="#C00000">Hero ($102.95)</font>

Preflop: Hero is in the CO with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG raises to 4, 1 fold, Hero raises to 13, 3 folds, UTG calls 9.

Flop (27.50) 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG checks, Hero bets 20, UTG raises to 92.08

Re: 100NL AA c/r AI
 

noiqpoker? he has a set a lot here. you're wb on his range given PF action.

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carlos poker.

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When i played the hand i thought he had AF: 6.

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I wouldnt fold, potodds are yummy. Fwiw ive been in this exact spot once, i called and AA &gt; TT.

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I wouldnt fold, potodds are yummy. Fwiw ive been in this exact spot once, i called and AA &gt; TT.

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He still has ten outs and its close. A lot of the time youre crushed. I hate these spots.

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I wouldnt fold, potodds are yummy. Fwiw ive been in this exact spot once, i called and AA &gt; TT.

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He still has ten outs and its close. A lot of the time youre crushed. I hate these spots.

[/ QUOTE ]Yea, dont really like it either, if he has a draw he has alot of outs or we are crushed.

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I wouldnt fold, potodds are yummy. Fwiw ive been in this exact spot once, i called and AA &gt; TT.

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He still has ten outs and its close. A lot of the time youre crushed. I hate these spots.

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Ya, it is close. I can definetely see villian having KK, TT, or AK/AQs here also, making this a coin flip and a call.

Re: 100NL AA c/r AI
 

If he stacks with AQ here.

equity win tie pots won pots tied

Hand 0: 55.990% 55.32% 00.67% 14787 179.00 { AcAh }
Hand 1: 44.010% 43.34% 00.67% 11585 179.00 { KK-99, AcKc, AQs, AQo }

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How much EQ% do we neeed for this to be EV0?

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I really don't see villain doing this with TT. I think we're behind enough that we don't really have pot odds on the call. He has a set more often than AK[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and AQ almost never.

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based on that poker stove it's a call according to EV but I'm still not sure I like it vs. this villain.

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Looks like a call according to the stove. I think a villain like this will definitely overplay AQ, KK etc here and be semibluffing a couple hands. I call given this and the odds we're getting.

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The 5% pfr and utg is what I'm looking at. Is this range too tight? I say it's a tough fold but I dunno I was wrong once.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

20,790 games 0.015 secs 1,386,000 games/sec

Board: 9h Jc Qc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.513% 46.08% 00.43% 9580 90.00 { AcAs }
Hand 1: 53.487% 53.05% 00.43% 11030 90.00 { KK-99, AcKc }

Re: 100NL AA c/r AI
 

If he doesnt stack off here with AQ my equity isnt changing much either.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.513% 46.08% 00.43% 9580 90.00 { AcAh }
Hand 1: 53.487% 53.05% 00.43% 11030 90.00 { KK-99, AcKc }

Re: 100NL AA c/r AI
 

Bobban we have the Ac so you dont have to include the AKs. Without it this would be even more of a call

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ooops my mistake.

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Bobban we have the Ac so you dont have to include the AKs. Without it this would be even more of a call

[/ QUOTE ]Ohh yea.. Didnt realize that lol

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We have to call this, you're getting over 2-1 and even with his range at 99, JJ+ you're about 40%. Throw in some additional hands like TT and AQ and the call becomes much easier.

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Yea, but its pretty much a coinflip but i think the call is correct.

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Yea, but its pretty much a coinflip but i think the call is correct.

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even if we're 50/50 to win the pot, the money already in the middle makes this a good gamble.

Re: 100NL AA c/r AI
 

Yea, thx all for the comments. I called and he showed 99, so the range we put him on should be pretty accurate.

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Did you type 0 pf aggression? fold. damn aces.

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No? 0,61 is total aggression factor.

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Yuck. JJ+ here? He doesn't play TT like this and 99 probably isn't in his PF raising range. Gosh. I would have to think this is JJ+ here taking a look at his aggro factor. He doesn't have KT or some flush draw here. Getting 2-to-1 on your money but I don't know what you beat here besides KK that really makes me jump all over those odds. I think I can fold this here.

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0.61? thats still damn low. If youre that low, you can get Away with your bluffs in the right spot on me since they will be so infrequent.

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How is this TT here? Does a 0.61 aggro player all of a sudden CRAI with a straight draw here after getting 3bet preflop by someone?

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Somewhere around 35% I calculated for it to be an EV of 0.

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Well, he called my 3bet pre with 99 as i said in some post above.

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um fold

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I think villian's range is as narrow as QQ, 99, AQ. Flush draws are unlikely even if you aren't holding Ac; this villian just doesn't checkraise flops w/ flush draws. I don't even think he does this w/ TT unless you've been pushing him around. However, I think he does do this very often w/ AQ, which makes this a tough laydown. Pokerstove breakdown using my estimation of his range follows:

Board: 9h Jc Qc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.529% 43.47% 01.05% 6456 156.50 { AcAs }
Hand 1: 55.471% 54.42% 01.05% 8081 156.50 { QQ-JJ, 99, AQs, AQo }

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Why isnt KK in his range auto?