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Check_The_Nuts 07-09-2007 01:20 PM

100NL: Stacking off with TPNK in blind war
 
Villian is 45/15/3.5. He seems over-aggro in the blinds and doesn't let get of hands much. I think he's pushed me off my big blind once or twice before which is fairly unusual for me. I think I raise bluffed at least once on this table and showed down.

I was probably around 22/20/6ish on this table but hard to say. This guy seemed to be playing back as well. Is this too light, or does he regularly turn up with air here?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP ($101.75)
Button ($119.85)
SB ($122.35)
Hero ($111.20)
UTG ($120)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($4) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $109.2 (All-In)</font>, SB calls $69.20.

schlimazel 07-09-2007 01:25 PM

Re: 100NL: Stacking off with TPNK in blind war
 
fold to the reraise. there are much better spots to get in against this guy.

Check_The_Nuts 07-09-2007 01:38 PM

Re: 100NL: Stacking off with TPNK in blind war
 
why not just fold the flop then? srsly I hate answers like that...

its a cash game I don't care if I bust.

relativity_x 07-09-2007 01:54 PM

Re: 100NL: Stacking off with TPNK in blind war
 
Nutz,

I think his 4-bet on the flop is better than a pair of 9s. You're only beating a bluff here. He can easily have a 9 better kicker, set, over pair. I think you can fold to his 4-bet.

schlimazel 07-09-2007 01:59 PM

Re: 100NL: Stacking off with TPNK in blind war
 
by "there are much better spots to get in against this guy," i mean that continuing with 97 on a 963 flop facing a bet/3bet is -ev. do you think he is 3bet/folding this flop very often? do you expect him to show up with a weaker hand than top pair, 7 kicker?

if he's over-aggro in the blinds and goes to the felt often, trap with him with a big pair. play speculative hands and felt with a strong draw or a made hand. you know he's not gonna fold his hand, so put him on a range of hands you expect him to play this way. figure out your pot odds and see if you have enough equity to continue.

i don't think felting 97s in this spot is +ev against a typical opponent i play against. but you've played with the opponent and feel otherwise. what range of hands do you expect him to play this way?

mertzo 07-09-2007 02:00 PM

Re: 100NL: Stacking off with TPNK in blind war
 
Calldown is better

Hoopster81 07-09-2007 02:01 PM

Re: 100NL: Stacking off with TPNK in blind war
 
don't like the flop raise

spyderracing 07-09-2007 02:07 PM

Re: 100NL: Stacking off with TPNK in blind war
 
3-bet pf

shadow33 07-09-2007 02:12 PM

Re: 100NL: Stacking off with TPNK in blind war
 
I would probably just call the flop against this donk.

We have top pair with a chance to improve on the turn with backdoor straight and flush.

Check_The_Nuts 07-09-2007 02:24 PM

Re: 100NL: Stacking off with TPNK in blind war
 
why is calldown better? And do you call turn bets when a jack/q/k/A hit?

The reason I'm raising here is for value because I think I have the best hand often+because my hand is a fairly weak made hand. If he has two overs, which he regularly does, then he's going to hit 12% of the time on the turn, and %24 of the time by the river. Basically, I'm only a 2.5-1 favourite over whiffed overs.

- and in case you didn't notice, I'm overaggro in the blinds. Also, yeti theorem on flop?

relativity_x 07-09-2007 02:27 PM

Re: 100NL: Stacking off with TPNK in blind war
 
I agree with your raise on the flop, but I'm not sure how you think his 4bet is two overs in this spot?

BTW, what's yeti theorem?

shadow33 07-09-2007 02:39 PM

Re: 100NL: Stacking off with TPNK in blind war
 
Your line may be optimal, based on the flow the game - I just think I would call down -

A note on the overcards - Spades of the overcards actually help our hand -

I am interested in hearing results -

Suigin406 07-09-2007 02:41 PM

Re: 100NL: Stacking off with TPNK in blind war
 
yea, y not just calldown against this donk and we have good possiblities on turn...do we think his 3.5 AF will shove us off our hand later on, so much that we show strength on the flop with a marginal holding??

Jamougha 07-09-2007 02:42 PM

Re: 100NL: Stacking off with TPNK in blind war
 
The raise is bad unless you were either trying to induce a 3-bet or had an easy laydown to one - and it's probably still bad if you have an easy laydown.

Check_The_Nuts 07-09-2007 02:42 PM

Re: 100NL: Stacking off with TPNK in blind war
 
that a 3bet is always a bluff on a paired board. I just figured this board is essentially so dry its equal to a paired board.

I mean is the guy rlly 3betting hands like 89-&gt;A9? or even TT/JJ?

edit: Jam it was to induce more action since I had done it before as a bluff, humm....still bad?

Check_The_Nuts 07-09-2007 02:47 PM

Re: 100NL: Stacking off with TPNK in blind war
 
and if its too thin whats the minimum mediocre hand u raise? Q9 or are you waiting for any overpair? Really felt like the guy was ready to stack-off light.

Jamougha 07-09-2007 02:49 PM

Re: 100NL: Stacking off with TPNK in blind war
 
[ QUOTE ]


edit: Jam it was to induce more action since I had done it before as a bluff, humm....still bad?

[/ QUOTE ]

Well if you were trying to induce action then you got the result you wanted, no?

Check_The_Nuts 07-09-2007 02:52 PM

Re: 100NL: Stacking off with TPNK in blind war
 
yeah thats why I moved in, not overly happy with it though. I'd feel better about it if I had like Q9 or something.

I still won versus his AK but it seems really really thin.


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