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RR 07-08-2007 06:47 PM

\"He can\'t have two seats\"
 
Last night I get called over to a 7 handed dealer's choice game (populated by mostly Omaha/8 players). There is an eighth stack of chips there. I get there and simultaneously 4 people are telling me this guy can't have this seat locked up because he is in the tournament. I point out the two other empty seats (they spread this game 10 handed here) and tell the players there are two empty seats, I will pick up the chips if I need the seat. Their "leader" tells me that's not the point, a player isn't allowed to have chips on a live table when they are in the tournament. I tell him I'm not picking up the player and leave scratching my head.

Clarkmeister 07-08-2007 06:57 PM

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Well played.

chucky 07-08-2007 07:01 PM

Re: \"He can\'t have two seats\"
 
Their complaint seems very stupid. I do wonder why people leave their chips at a table if they wont be coming back for more than 20 minutes. My guess is these guys wanted the rake reduction of playing less than 7 handed.

pismeyer 07-08-2007 07:23 PM

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What in the world were they thinking?

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iron81 07-08-2007 07:31 PM

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My guess is these guys wanted the rake reduction of playing less than 7 handed.

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My guess is they are standard O8 nits who 1. Like to complain 2. Are hypertechnical about rules and 3. Don't like playing shorthanded. Anytime you guys want to see the crabbiest, most depressing people around, play B&M O8 against senior citizens.

Chipr777 07-08-2007 08:36 PM

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Anytime you guys want to see the crabbiest, most depressing people around, play B&M O8 against senior citizens

[/ QUOTE ] They make up most of the 0/8 population unfortunatly.

bav 07-08-2007 10:09 PM

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What in the world were they thinking?

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The exact thought process is: "There's a rule against that, dammit!"

Common sense isn't.

pvn 07-08-2007 10:32 PM

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My guess is they are standard O8 nits

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QFT.

RR, did you kick any of them in the nuts?

MediaPA 07-08-2007 11:02 PM

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lol. I enjoy 0/8 in casinos. It's amusing. Whenever I'm stuck on the list and my friends are around, I joke that someone needs to die so I can get in the game (there are other ones, early bird specials, nap, diaper change). I'm starting to be afraid that one day this will come true.

The game is amusing. Last time I was at the Taj playing, I couldn't understand a word the guy next to me was saying. There was a husband wife in the 9/10 seats. Husband wins a pot w/o being called. Flashes the table his hand. Guy in seat 1 couldn't see it. 'Show one, Show all' no big deal, really. The wife eventually hears/understansds this and tables the hand. Guy kept complaining for the next 3 orbits. It's typically complaining for the sake of it.

RR 07-08-2007 11:34 PM

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My guess is they are standard O8 nits

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QFT.

RR, did you kick any of them in the nuts?

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I didn't renew my liscence with Mr Capone so I had to settle for posting about it here so I could have a good laugh whenever I come into the poker office to read 2+2.

RR 07-09-2007 12:00 AM

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What in the world were they thinking?

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The exact thought process is: "There's a rule against that, dammit!"

Common sense isn't.

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This is correct. Also this is a market that until now common sence wasn't used on the floor.

Quadstriker 07-09-2007 01:01 AM

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standard O8 nits

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youtalkfunny 07-09-2007 01:18 AM

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I hadn't dealt much O/8 lately, but I did last night.

As I pushed into the game, the departing dealer said to me, "Dead Button". I looked and saw that the button was in Seat 3. There was a player in Seat 3, with no chips. Seats 4 and 5 had already posted their blinds.

Before the departing dealer got away, I asked him specifically if Seat 3 should get a hand. The dealer shrugged. I asked him if Seat Three paid a blind in the last hand, and was told that no, he had not.

Meanwhile, Seat 3 still hadn't shown any indication that he planned to put money on the table. So I dealt around him. Naturally, this is exactly what he wanted, so he could blow his top (this guy is always trying to start trouble so he can yell at dealers; his favorite move is to refuse to act when it's his turn, and when he's finally prompted, he can say, "Oh, I checked a long time ago, you should pay attention.").

"What are you doing???", he demanded.

"I can deal you in next hand, sir."

"(agitated) But I'm just like a new player!"

"(calmly) I can't let a new player come in on the button, either. Right?"

At this point he started grumbling about what a smart alec I was. I told him that I really didn't want to fight with him, and I'd be glad to call the floor if he wasn't satisfied with the way I was handling things.

Paranoid schizo that he is, he took that to mean, "I'm ratting you out to the floor, Mr Bully!", and dared me to call whomever I want. "You do whatever you want to do."

What I wanted to do was shut up and deal, so I shut up and dealt.

After that hand, I moved the button. Seat 3 still had no money on the table.

"Would you like to come in?", I asked.

"Hell, no!", he bellowed. I shrugged and dealt around him for my entire down. He spent that entire time scowling at me. He bought chips from the next dealer after I left.

That was Hand One and Hand Two of that down. Want to hear about Hand Three?

A new player joined the game. A big pot broke out. The new guy's set of Aces was the nuts on the turn, but of course had almost no shot when the board didn't pair on the river. Somebody had a straight, and two others made a flush.

The new guy with the set of Aces didn't hesitate to accuse me of running the deck up on him, giving him the nuts on the turn, and cracking them on the river. He wasn't kidding. He thought the entire game was a set-up.

He REALLY lost it when he found out the guy in the dealer's uniform playing in Seat 10 was employed by the house.

"That's his own money he's playing with, not the house's," one player explained (I certainly wasn't going to waste my time trying to use logic with a nutjob). New Guy didn't believe that, and made sure we knew that he felt his intelligence had just been insulted.

"He's got $20 left in his stack. If he's scamming anybody, he's not doing a very good job of it!", they tried. This did nothing to assuage New Guy's suspicions.

I checked my watch. I still had 22 minutes to go. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Andy B 07-09-2007 01:30 AM

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Three hands in eight minutes? Sweet.

Dan. 07-09-2007 01:42 AM

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Three hands in eight minutes? Sweet.

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Even with his interaction with the disgruntled player, too. I want him to deal all my games.

iron81 07-09-2007 01:54 AM

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You have my sympathy. One time I was in an O8 game and I muttered, "We hate playing it as much as you hate dealing it." The dealer turned and overtly nodded to me. I can't imagine how aggravating it is. I feel so bad for these guys that I turn into an assistant dealer: calling hands, reminding players of their action, but that might just piss them off more.

Quadstriker 07-09-2007 02:46 AM

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Three hands in eight minutes? Sweet.

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I suppose we still live in that magical land where every dealer pushes into his table at exactly :30 and :00 of the hour too, right?

Howard Beale 07-09-2007 03:52 AM

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Some people live to be 'right' and will not miss an opportunity to point out what isn't 'right'. This example is funny, funny, funny. I'd have had a field day with the 'leader' if I'd been there.

Quadstriker 07-09-2007 04:09 AM

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I've had nits start the "How long can they be gone?" talk with empty seats and no list before. Usually the standard "as long as no one needs the seat" pacifies them.

TxRedMan 07-09-2007 05:34 AM

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omaha eight players can be a really strange bunch....

obviously if you need the seat, pick up the chips. until then, wtf does it matter? btw, is this the rio?

youtalkfunny 07-09-2007 06:42 AM

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Three hands in eight minutes? Sweet.

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It was short-handed. And tight.

steamboatin 07-09-2007 10:10 AM

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My guess is these guys wanted the rake reduction of playing less than 7 handed.


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My guess is they are standard O8 nits who 1. Like to complain 2. Are hypertechnical about rules and 3. Don't like playing shorthanded. Anytime you guys want to see the crabbiest, most depressing people around, play B&M O8 against senior citizens.


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LOL, if you think this is bad, go play at Casino Aztar in Evansville,IN.

iron81 07-09-2007 11:07 AM

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I didn't say it was bad, I said it was standard. That said, if you have any good horror stories, do tell.

otter 07-09-2007 11:08 AM

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I played in a hold 'em/Omaha home game for years w/ senior citizens and you sure hit the nail on the head.

steamboatin 07-09-2007 11:16 AM

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I didn't say it was bad, I said it was standard. That said, if you have any good horror stories, do tell.

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The dealers are just the same as the players. Charles, possibly the slowest dealer on the planet, gets out eleven hands in a down (3 hands with no showdown or he wouldn't have made double digits) but has plenty of time to tell me it is against the rules to have my chair turned around backwards.

vikefan24 07-09-2007 12:04 PM

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The new guy with the set of Aces didn't hesitate to accuse me of running the deck up on him, giving him the nuts on the turn, and cracking them on the river. He wasn't kidding. He thought the entire game was a set-up.

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lol I dealt with this a couple weeks ago at 3/6 limit.. A guy lost with AA to QQ as the river was the fourth diamond to give the guy with Qs a flush. He blamed the dealer and the shuffle machine. The guys there new his name and said it was standard, he left cussing and was over by the managers desk and the dealer asked him if he wanted a hand and he said "why the [censored] would I want a hand when I'm over here" and called the dealer a bunch of names as he went to walk around by the slots, the dealer explained to the table that didn't know him that there have been times where he[the guy that got mad] will be way away from the table like where they give food and complain if he isn't dealt cards.


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