Best way to build bankroll?
 

Hey i'm new here. Ive been trying to build a bankroll on stars and need pointers on how to get the ball rolling.

I have about a 500 dollar roll and have been playing 4/180s and 5 dollar mtts. Is this the best way to build a roll or are there better ways? I want to be a Tournament only player and I heard some people talk about playing satelites for T$.

Can anyone give me some tips so I can robusto like all of you?

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Wouldn't be a bad idea to take the occasional shot at a $10/180, and also taking shots at the $8.80/36 Double shootouts to the $215.

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Well double shootouts are better for SNG players, but if that's something you enjoy/are good at then I'm sure they're really soft. You're doing what you should be, just have to grind it out for awhile. It's hard to beat the 4/180s (in terms of good tourneys to play,) they're just so soft and always available. You can take a few shots at the 10/180s, but make sure you don't go overboard because you really aren't rolled for them yet. There's a few more decent players in the 10s but there's still an abundance of soft spots.

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best way to build a bankroll? Win your coinflips... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Seriously - you want to play MTTs, with your bankroll you should play:

- $4/180's
- $5/45's (regular speed)
- $6/45's (if you like turbos)
- $5 MTTs
- $3.50 Triple Shootout Sats to Sunday Mil

Take occasional shots at:
- $10/180's
- $3r MTTs
- $3r sats to Sunday Mil
- $11.70 Double Shootout sats to Sunday Mil
- $8.80 Double Shootout sats to Sunday Mil

Mixing in some cash - NL50 / NL25 - is good too... especially if you run into a bad spot in tourneys. Nice to mix 'em up.

You'll get a lot of advice saying "go play the sunday mil sats", but as much as they are soft, the variance can be high, and they represent a fairly large chunk of your BR. A 10 tourney downswing could cripple you...

And my advice is also to avoid the $2 triple shootouts to the mil - they are turbo 6 max, paying 2 seats. I like the $3 regular speed one - they pay (usually) more seats, and the fact that it's not a turbo makes it easier to beat... (with the triple shootouts, having to finish 1st twice in a row in turbo crap-shoots is difficult...)

Just my $0.02...

OT

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re-reading my post, with a $500 BR, you should be taking my advice, but when I say take the occasional shot, I mean 'occasional'... You are not rolled for $10 tourneys...

Also - stick with NL25 if you're gonna play cash. You need about a grand for NL50...

OT

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Whatever you choose to do, you should make the frequency of the shots you take (e.g. $10 rather than your usual $5) a function of you bankroll.

For example, if you decide you need a $500 roll for $5 MTTs and a $1000 roll for $10 MTTs then once you have a $750 roll you can play half $5 and half $10.

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Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate the help

BTW I won a MTT last week and coincidentially beat the TLB Winner of the Week Confitoer heads up. It was a 1063 score, but half of it had to go towards expenses. =(

Obv hes not good heads up since he lost his VIP match too

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Is there a bankroll rule like there is for cash, 20 buy ins?

So for mtts, would it be like 50 or 100 or what?

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100 seems to be pretty standard.

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100 for MTT's is solid and around 30 to 40 full BI's for NL cash games (more on the 40-50 side for 6max) is my rule (I'm kind of a nit though)

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100 for MTT's is solid and around 30 to 40 full BI's for NL cash games (more on the 40-50 side for 6max) is my rule (I'm kind of a nit though)

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This is really conservative for NLHE cash. 40 buy-ins is standard advice for PLO, which usually requires double the bankroll of NLHE.

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20 is ok for NL cash as long as you're willing to move down if things don't go well. If you don't think you have the discipline for that, 40 is probably a better number.

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This is really conservative for NLHE cash. 40 buy-ins is standard advice for PLO, which usually requires double the bankroll of NLHE.

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Can I ask why is this true for PLO?

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This is really conservative for NLHE cash. 40 buy-ins is standard advice for PLO, which usually requires double the bankroll of NLHE.

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Can I ask why is this true for PLO?

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Because the variance is twice as much in PLO ldo?

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This is really conservative for NLHE cash. 40 buy-ins is standard advice for PLO, which usually requires double the bankroll of NLHE.

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Can I ask why is this true for PLO?

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cause every time ur allin its a set v. a combo draw (50/50) and if u run bad at those, then u lose infintie buyins.

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6.50 turbos and 25nl

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This is really conservative for NLHE cash. 40 buy-ins is standard advice for PLO, which usually requires double the bankroll of NLHE.

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Can I ask why is this true for PLO?

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Because the variance is twice as much in PLO ldo?

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This is the correct answer.

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This is really conservative for NLHE cash. 40 buy-ins is standard advice for PLO, which usually requires double the bankroll of NLHE.

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Can I ask why is this true for PLO?

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cause every time ur allin its a set v. a combo draw (50/50) and if u run bad at those, then u lose infintie buyins.

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And this is, more or less, the reason that it was the correct answer.

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My 2c ... building a bankroll and building skill do not proceed at the same pace! My game improved immeasurably when I started to mix up different disciplines eg MTT, Ring, STTs; played some full ring and some HU, and learned PLO. Definitely develops your poker intuition. So, build a bankroll but build skill simultaneously. If you are going to play ring, play 1c/2c for 10k hands until you can beat it, then move up. Play 3.30/5.50 freezeouts, even take a shot at the 3.30 rebuy once a week, and learn STTs so you can play the 6.50s and the Dble shootout sats.

GL

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Play cash games.
Don't move up in limits the soonest posible.
Don't take shots at higher limits.
Play low-buyin MTT whenevr you're profiting in the cash games.
Be disciplined.
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PROFIT!

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Hey i'm new here. Ive been trying to build a bankroll on stars and need pointers on how to get the ball rolling.



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When I was in this spot several years ago I played $5 SnG's till br was 1k...low varience and you will benefit from playing so many hands in different spots....or you can put $500 on red....faster

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Play cash games.
Don't move up in limits the soonest posible.
Don't take shots at higher limits.
Play low-buyin MTT whenevr you're profiting in the cash games.
Be disciplined.
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PROFIT!

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Hmmm. You prolly didn´t mean it like that..?

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Taking shots works cool if you run good, and it will give you the confidence you shouldn't have. Variance..

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This thread is full of good info. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Anyone can get a paper route and replace $500.

If you can beat the game, play 9man sngs, one at a time, at the 10 buyin mark till you get to $2000 and then play the heck out of the rebuys.

If you can beat the game. Good luck.

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If you can win heads up matches the $5 and $10 ones are often filled with terrible players and, therefore, very easy to beat.

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If you can win heads up matches the $5 and $10 ones are often filled with terrible players and, therefore, very easy to beat.

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QFT

If your any good at head-up these are a great way to keep your roll up.

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This is really conservative for NLHE cash. 40 buy-ins is standard advice for PLO, which usually requires double the bankroll of NLHE.

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Yeah QFT, PLO will wreck havoc on your bankroll is your playing light in the pocket.