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Annulus 07-05-2007 05:16 AM

Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
i was watching this for last hour or so. timex was playing very tight-aggressive up to this point. whats his thinking/rational here? him and villian do have some history. i forgot the details but a little earlier timex got all in verse villian as a 3 to 1 underdog only to river a naked flush and stay alive in the tournament.


PokerStars Game #10777702296: Tournament #54101364, $300+$20 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIII (7500/15000) - 2007/07/05 - 05:03:00 (ET)
Table '54101364 9' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: hit21hit (580114 in chips)
Seat 7: mkop30 (174722 in chips)
Seat 9: BuklaH (545164 in chips)
hit21hit: posts the ante 750
mkop30: posts the ante 750
BuklaH: posts the ante 750
BuklaH: posts small blind 7500
hit21hit: posts big blind 15000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
mkop30: folds
BuklaH: calls 7500
hit21hit: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jc 3h 7c]
BuklaH: checks
hit21hit: bets 22500
BuklaH: raises 506914 to 529414 and is all-in
hit21hit: calls 506914
*** TURN *** [Jc 3h 7c] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [Jc 3h 7c Th] [Kh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BuklaH: shows [Qh Qc] (a pair of Queens)
hit21hit: shows [7d 5d] (a pair of Sevens)
BuklaH collected 1091078 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1091078 | Rake 0
Board [Jc 3h 7c Th Kh]
Seat 1: hit21hit (big blind) showed [7d 5d] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 7: mkop30 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: BuklaH (small blind) showed [Qh Qc] and won (1091078) with a pair of Queens

stevepa 07-05-2007 05:59 AM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
Sometimes timex is...uh.....not good...

TheNewf 07-05-2007 06:00 AM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
meh, his ability to make big calls like this that are right more often than not is what seperates him from most of you.

shaniac 07-05-2007 06:11 AM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
he thought his pair was good, wanted to gamble? SB played QQ real sneaky!

flyingmoose 07-05-2007 06:14 AM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
All I can think right now is "aggressive call."

THEOSU 07-05-2007 06:21 AM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 

oh man, i can't believe i get to say this...

he put his opponent on AK.

THAY3R 07-05-2007 07:34 AM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
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oh man, i can't believe i get to say this...

he put his opponent on A3.

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RandALLin 07-05-2007 08:51 AM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
This is your standard spite call, and the fact he didn't get there by the river is absurd.

curtains 07-05-2007 09:11 AM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
ok not the best call ever. I dunno pay structure but at thsi point it should be similar to a sit and go to some degree, which makes a call like this even worse. You need a pretty decent amount of equity to make this call correct in such a situation. Off the cuff I'd say he needs at least 55-57% equity to breakeven.

Given that we have just about 45% equity in our nearly best case scenario of being up against a flush draw with two overcards, this call just can't be right. Even against a flush card with one overcard, which would be a pretty big surprise here, we have only 55% equity. Of course a decent % of the time we will be completely smashed as well.

Butcho22 07-05-2007 02:35 PM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
Has anybody confirmed this wasn't a misclick?

Ship Ship McGipp 07-05-2007 03:18 PM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
meh, close

djk123 07-05-2007 03:27 PM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
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meh, close

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maybe you aren't serious, but how can this be even close to being close?

JSchnett 07-05-2007 03:40 PM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
this is terrible

Ship Ship McGipp 07-05-2007 03:44 PM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
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meh, close

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maybe you aren't serious, but how can this be even close to being close?

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you think it's a clear call or a clear fold?

TheNewf 07-05-2007 03:53 PM

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this is terrible

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stevepa 07-05-2007 04:01 PM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
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meh, close

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maybe you aren't serious, but how can this be even close to being close?

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you think it's a clear call or a clear fold?

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It might be close from a pure cEV standpoint. 3 handed with these stack sizes cEV =/= $EV and this is a dreadful call.

djk123 07-05-2007 04:13 PM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
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meh, close

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maybe you aren't serious, but how can this be even close to being close?

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you think it's a clear call or a clear fold?

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I think it is a clear fold. I can't imagine someone ever bluffing like this. I think we are crushed by his range. Best case scenario he has some huge draw that we are basically flipping against. We also have to consider that we are about tied for first in chips while 3rd is way behind.

blankoblanco 07-05-2007 04:17 PM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
ew $$$ > trying to be a hero

betgo 07-05-2007 05:21 PM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
I think it is an obvious misclick.

timex 07-07-2007 04:57 AM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
My alcohol tolerance is so unbelievably low.

Annulus 07-07-2007 05:14 AM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
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My alcohol tolerance is so unbelievably low.

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you played your typical great poker till that final hand. did you get drunk within a span of 2 or 3 hands? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

timex 07-07-2007 05:15 AM

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i forgot the details but a little earlier timex got all in verse villian as a 3 to 1 underdog only to river a naked flush and stay alive in the tournament.


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This seems a little uncalled for. I won a 43/57, AK v QQ is a 43/57.

Annulus 07-07-2007 05:33 AM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
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i forgot the details but a little earlier timex got all in verse villian as a 3 to 1 underdog only to river a naked flush and stay alive in the tournament.


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This seems a little uncalled for. I won a 43/57, AK v QQ is a 43/57.

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didn't mean any harm. i thought there was a hand in which you were dominated by a stronger ace only to hit a 4 card flush on the river? i could be wrong. anyways, i think you are one of the best players evar, and i was just curious to see what your m.o. was on this bustout hand.

timex 07-07-2007 05:39 AM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
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i forgot the details but a little earlier timex got all in verse villian as a 3 to 1 underdog only to river a naked flush and stay alive in the tournament.


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This seems a little uncalled for. I won a 43/57, AK v QQ is a 43/57.

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didn't mean any harm. i thought there was a hand in which you were dominated by a stronger ace only to hit a 4 card flush on the river? i could be wrong. anyways, i think you are one of the best players evar, and i was just curious to see what your m.o. was on this bustout hand.

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A5 v A6 is also a 43/57

NoahSD 07-07-2007 05:39 AM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
Next time a thread like this gets posted, people should wait a bit before saying that the play was awful so that a bunch of people get to make fools out of themselves trying to justify awful play.

flyingmoose 07-07-2007 06:27 AM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
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Next time a thread like this gets posted, people should wait a bit before saying that the play was awful so that a bunch of people get to make fools out of themselves trying to justify awful play.

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very good point

sheetsworld 07-07-2007 10:34 AM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
sheetspwns: Hey, you in anything
timexmainman22342: Yeah 3 handed in the stars 320, cant talk.
sheetspwns:meh...I'll pull it up.
timesmainman22342: Its a free country...do what u want, but dont try to talk me into any plays tyvm.
sheetspwns:gfy

timexmainman22342 has signed off

sheetspwns2:cmon why you gotta be like that?
timexmainman22342: sigh whatever
sheetspwns2:damn what do u have here? seems like he could really have a big hand...obv there is no way u are calling so just fold
timexmainman22342: ok just cuz u said that...i call.

timexmainman22342 has signed off

sheetspwns: woohooooooo
buklah2643:tytytytytytytytytytytytyt
sheetspwns: told ya it would work
buklah2643: send to sheets (new york)
sheets: yes ty




sheets

DublinsHero 07-07-2007 11:04 AM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
hahahhaha that has to be fake lollllll

timex 07-07-2007 11:08 AM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
wtf?

KingDan 07-07-2007 06:56 PM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
Who the f' do you guys think you are questioning the 46th best p1ayer in the wor1d?

This seems 1ike a very reasonab1e range for vi11ian.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

71,280 games 0.005 secs 14,256,000 games/sec

Board: Jc 3h 7c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 33.792% 33.79% 00.00% 24087 0.00 { QQ, 44, 32s, 32o }
Hand 1: 66.208% 66.21% 00.00% 47193 0.00 { 75s }

Timex just got co1d-decked, it happens.

NHFunkii 07-07-2007 07:36 PM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
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meh, close

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maybe you aren't serious, but how can this be even close to being close?

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you think it's a clear call or a clear fold?

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It might be close from a pure cEV standpoint. 3 handed with these stack sizes cEV =/= $EV and this is a dreadful call.

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yeah
also, lol @ sheets

RandALLin 07-07-2007 07:48 PM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
Finally some quality threads in hsmtt.

aaronbeen 07-07-2007 07:56 PM

Re: Timex final table bustout hand 3 handed in stars $320
 
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