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FTPDoug 07-03-2007 09:45 PM

FTP Status
 
It's 21:40 EST, and we have decided to take the game down. We are experiencing too many disconnects to try and proceed.

If you were in a tournament when the disconnections began, we will look at your chip equity when the disconnections began, your equity right now (as of the void) and give you the higher of the two.

We hope to be up within the next few hours.

Apologies,

Doug

People_Mover 07-03-2007 09:47 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
keep us posted. ty Doug, please turn on BOOM switch too. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

BigBiceps 07-03-2007 09:48 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
What is the formula for equity?
Is it (#chips/total chips) * (total prize pool) / # players remaining?

Also, when are the payouts expected?

Johny Poker 07-03-2007 09:48 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
wow, thanks for the announcement, but this is pitiful for a major site.

jsbjoe 07-03-2007 09:48 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
thanks for the update

(was in the $300 tournament)

Klompy 07-03-2007 09:49 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
wow, awesome deal for you guys who didn't get dc and could steal blinds for half an hour. Thanks for the update doug.

cwar 07-03-2007 09:51 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
Thanks for the update doug.

Zele 07-03-2007 09:53 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
Thanks for keeping us posted, Doug.

Jurollo 07-03-2007 09:54 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
Do I get my equity as calculated with overlay on the WSOPE qualifier?

chicken10der 07-03-2007 09:55 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
in before rakeback

zombie ballbag 07-03-2007 09:55 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
[ QUOTE ]
What is the formula for equity?
Is it (#chips/total chips) * (total prize pool) / # players remaining?

Also, when are the payouts expected?

[/ QUOTE ]

DMoogle 07-03-2007 09:57 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
Thanks for the update, Doug. I hope that it will be back up soon, and I hope that we'll get credit for Ironman today because I had JUST started up my session and only got in 15 minutes before it went down. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

shadyridr 07-03-2007 09:59 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
Yeah seriously I was disconnected for 45 minutes before you decided to pause the tournaments. I lost 500 in chips.

Klompy 07-03-2007 10:02 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
[ QUOTE ]
Yeah seriously I was disconnected for 45 minutes before you decided to pause the tournaments. I lost 500 in chips.

[/ QUOTE ]

It sounds like this wont hurt you though, you'll get the equity from whatever time you were dropped.

BigBiceps 07-03-2007 10:05 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
So then it hurts the people that gained the chips, because the total number of chips in play is higher, giving less to all the other people?

Klompy 07-03-2007 10:10 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
[ QUOTE ]
So then it hurts the people that gained the chips, because the total number of chips in play is higher, giving less to all the other people?

[/ QUOTE ]

Unless I'm reading OP wrong it doesn't sound that way either, it sounds like everyone's getting the best situation here. My guess would be theres 2 different calcs where the total chips in play is the same for both, but you get your higher equity payout depending on when you had more chips. It sounds like FT is paying out an overlay on this. Then again this is all speculation on my part.

zombie ballbag 07-03-2007 10:11 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
it only hurts you if you were like, final table or higher chip level, or if you were the best player in the field and had an above average chance of increasing your chip stack / making the FT/whatever... heres the math on mine for an example:

i am 15th of 125 in the 25k guarantee

buyins to be distributed according to chip stacks: 281*69=19389

but everyone still left gets their buyin back, even people with 50 chips or some crap. im 15th with 18650 or so. total chips 406*3000=1218000. 18650/12180000=.0015311etc, *19389+69 = $366 total return on a $69 investment... meh i dunno. i dont like it but i guess its more fair than chopping it at where the money would currently be and handing out prizes accordingly.

edit: in 15th place, i am making about $80 more than i would be if they just chopped it and divvyd it up according to the original payout structure, obv the first place person is not taking $7k though, so you're only hurt if you were like, very very high in the tournament standings. otherwise you're probably making out ahead. of course the first place guy is gonna get like, way way less than the 1st place prize, but it evens out quickly

FTPDoug 07-03-2007 10:12 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
Our system has a method for paying out automatically as soon as the tournament gets voided. This payout will be based on the chip count when the void occurs.

Then we have to do some work to get the equity before the disconnections started, so those who were negatively affected will get a second payout within the next 24-48 hours to make up any difference.

The system/automatic payout does not take into account freerolls and overlays for some reason, so the additional payout from that would happen with the second batch.

-zero- 07-03-2007 10:15 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
Doug, what about disconnects during cash games? Thanks.

Jurra 07-03-2007 10:19 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
How about SnG`s? The same thing there?

Uglyowl 07-03-2007 10:27 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
Do we get Ironman credit? I am sitting at 180 pts I think.

thac 07-03-2007 10:31 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
Yeah I'm at 185 and upset.

892King 07-03-2007 10:40 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
I'm on Full Tilt... :$:$:$:$

burty1 07-03-2007 10:56 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
Does Full Tilt offer any freerolls or bonus money to be earned via rakeback when a situation like this occurs? I know the Doyle Brunson Network always had a couple or more $1000 freerolls to "make it up" to players...

omaha hi lo king 07-03-2007 10:57 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
you are on >>>????

LaniSLC 07-03-2007 11:03 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
i just wanna play some poker and all my funds are on FTP how sad

LaniSLC 07-03-2007 11:04 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
p.s. why is it that an official of FTP posts here about what is going on but on the FTP site i can't find a thing?

Legislurker 07-03-2007 11:05 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
I am guessing they didn't pay of the denial of service attack guys.

cneely 07-03-2007 11:11 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
status?

dshan80 07-03-2007 11:12 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
this sucks, but gametap is keeping me busy...sonic the hedgehog and streets of rage FTW!!

dshan80 07-03-2007 11:15 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
beat: final fantasy VII for ps1 broken.

very off topic.

LaniSLC 07-03-2007 11:17 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
i guess there is yahoo pool

Jzo19 07-03-2007 11:17 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
[ QUOTE ]
this sucks, but gametap is keeping me busy...sonic the hedgehog and streets of rage FTW!!

[/ QUOTE ]

can ppl play against each other on gametap , if so i'll play some street fighter alpha for some monies

dshan80 07-03-2007 11:20 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
not sure, but im obsessed with SOR3

Poseidon65 07-03-2007 11:23 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
Absolute Poker is keeping me busy.

Jim14Qc 07-03-2007 11:30 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
If it weren't for rakeback and your amazingly good software..

Worst. Time. Ever. for a "scheduled maintenance". Right.

OK I see you've fixed the Status Page which said this was scheduled. At least being honest.

dshan80 07-03-2007 11:31 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
tilt back up

11:31 pm est

BigBiceps 07-03-2007 11:37 PM

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Post deleted by BigBiceps

LaniSLC 07-03-2007 11:37 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
its back up

omaha hi lo king 07-03-2007 11:38 PM

Re: FTP Status
 
yeahhhh


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