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El Diablo 07-03-2007 03:55 PM

Profanity filter
 
So, I was just wondering this after reading the avatar thread.

Why does the profanity filter really exist?

Is it really that bad for people to be allowed to write shi* or fu*k or other words like that?

I made a list of current posts the other day in the Nate banning thread. This is what I found from a 5-minute glance at a few forums:

--
Phil Ivey is a strip club degen
in this thread we name investments better than staking TJ
Famous poker player caught in bed w/ another poker players' wife?
Which poker players look like they do drugs?
Card Runners Tech support is a joke.
Sexual variance
WTF my farts smell so bad they are preventing me from sleeping
Threeway turns weird--hot or not?
Girls & PhotoBucket Accounts *** NSFW ***
Beat: Made out w/ fattie in public
Best Jerking off session of my life
How do I stop my girlfriend making sounds during sex?
ask me about being the happiest guy alive (i.e. I just rubbed one out)
is smoking a blunt or eating mcdonalds worse for you?
Friend pisses in my bed....
--

I find it weird that these topics are allowed to be carried on at 2+2, while standard profanities are filtered.

To me, much of the discussion on 2+2 is far, far, far more offensive and inappropriate than lots of the words that are censored.

Anyhow, I'm not really pushing for change or anything. I was just curious about the background of this decision and was wondering how other mods/admins felt about it.

Mat Sklansky 07-03-2007 04:02 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
i hate it. mason wants it. dead issue.

El Diablo 07-03-2007 05:17 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
Mat,

What if you, I, David, and Ray banded together to fight Mason?

One of us could steal his vitamins and hold them hostage, then we would have the upper hand.

Regarding the issue itself, I don't really care. I just think it's weird given the type of disgusting stuff discussed all the time on 2+2, that's all.

NT! 07-03-2007 05:45 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
Diablo for president

Mat Sklansky 07-03-2007 05:48 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
It is [censored] weird. The stuff that's allowed today never would have been allowed at first. Slowly we evolved into the gutter. I like it and Mason tolerates it. He doesn't endorse it, however. I'm pretty sure that he believes lifting the filter would imply such an endorsement.

Mason Malmuth 07-03-2007 06:23 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
Hi Masked Man:

I have used a personal profanity filter for well over 25 years. No one who currently knows me has ever heard me use a swear word of any sort (even though I get accused of it every now and then). So we're going to keep it.

Also, just between us, I strongly recommend that you and your cronies keep your hands off my vitamins.

Best wishes,
Mason

Evan 07-03-2007 06:29 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
Mason, would you be more likely to let a curse word slip or openly detail the best jerking off session of your life?

StellarWind 07-03-2007 11:28 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
[ QUOTE ]
To me, much of the discussion on 2+2 is far, far, far more offensive and inappropriate than lots of the words that are censored.

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I completely agree but any change should be limited to specific forums.

The strategy forums and many other special interest forums don't allow this type of garbage. For them the profanity filter isn't at all inconsistent with the content of the forum. The filter helps maintain decorum without turning the mods into nitty four-letter-word police.

Andy B 07-04-2007 02:10 AM

Re: Profanity filter
 
Clearly, I read the wrong forums. I'm not going to go looking for the thread or anything, but apart from being someplace like your parents' house or a monastery, why would anyone want his lady not to make noise during sex?

SamIAm 07-04-2007 07:52 AM

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Clearly, I read the wrong forums. I'm not going to go looking for the thread or anything, but apart from being someplace like your parents' house or a monastery, why would anyone want his lady not to make noise during sex?

[/ QUOTE ]
Because she's having sex with somebody else?

diebitter 07-04-2007 08:13 AM

Re: Profanity filter
 
[ QUOTE ]
Clearly, I read the wrong forums. I'm not going to go looking for the thread or anything, but apart from being someplace like your parents' house or a monastery, why would anyone want his lady not to make noise during sex?

[/ QUOTE ]


All that screaming and crying can put you off your stroke.

daryn 07-04-2007 08:24 AM

Re: Profanity filter
 
wow, evan.. sick

*TT* 07-06-2007 12:17 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
[ QUOTE ]
Mason, would you be more likely to let a curse word slip or openly detail the best jerking off session of your life?

[/ QUOTE ]

compromise - the Solomon way would be to do both of course. While taking vitamins.

PS: Dam you Evan, I lol'ed at your post!

entertainme 07-10-2007 04:41 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
Speaking of the profanity filter.

I just warned a poster for using "f'n" in a post.

Two posts down includes "wtf".

Is it inconsistent to consider F'n to be circumventing the filter but wtf not circumventing the filter? (It just seems "wtf" has become common message board usage.)

Profanity filter nittiness FTW!

Dids 07-10-2007 04:43 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
I would think f'n is ok. IT's more like "effin" than an actual profanity.

4_2_it 07-10-2007 04:49 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
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I would think f'n is ok. IT's more like "effin" than an actual profanity.

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I think that's fine as long as they are being used as adjectives.

entertainme 07-10-2007 05:01 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
I've basically taken the position that you should just type whatever word it is you want to use and let the filter do it's job.

If you type bitch and it doesn't filter bitch, then you didn't break a rule.

If you don't type the word completely, then you are by definition circumventing the filter.

Gildwulf 07-10-2007 05:04 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
my rule is, if you can pronounce it and it sounds like the swear then you're violating the filter.

example 1: wtf 'double u tee f'...not violating

example 2: f'in 'eff-ing'...not violating

example 3: son of a beech or fegget...violation

Evan 07-10-2007 05:10 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
entertainme, wow, you warn people for saying f'n? That is ridiculous imo. I type "effing" all the time on here.

Gilf, son of a bitch.

Gildwulf 07-10-2007 05:11 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
wtf bitch isn't banned? That is such cockshit.

Dids 07-10-2007 05:28 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
dogshit isn't either btw.

entertainme 07-10-2007 05:36 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
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entertainme, wow, you warn people for saying f'n? That is ridiculous imo. I type "effing" all the time on here.

Gilf, son of a bitch.

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If I type [censored] it's filtered.

If I type f'n, isn't that by definition circumventing the filter?

What about fkg?

Fukg? Where do you draw the line?

This morning there was a post with buckfutting. It seems to me there's only one logical way to rework that into a word.

For the record, I'm not offended by profanity, just trying to get an idea of how the rule is being enforced forum wide, (though I do think if we had no filter the site could quickly become unreadable.)

Dids 07-10-2007 05:50 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
I think "effing" is a socially acceptable non profanity in enough contexts that we should allow it. If you want to get techincal, the F is ok, it's when the u and the c get involved that we should be concerned.

entertainme 07-10-2007 05:59 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
OK. I've removed the warning and apologized to the poster.

I can see the logic of Gidwulf's enforcement method.

Thanks for the help.

Evan 07-10-2007 06:08 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
entertainme, wow, you warn people for saying f'n? That is ridiculous imo. I type "effing" all the time on here.

Gilf, son of a bitch.

[/ QUOTE ]

If I type [censored] it's filtered.

If I type f'n, isn't that by definition circumventing the filter?

What about fkg?

Fukg? Where do you draw the line?

This morning there was a post with buckfutting. It seems to me there's only one logical way to rework that into a word.

For the record, I'm not offended by profanity, just trying to get an idea of how the rule is being enforced forum wide, (though I do think if we had no filter the site could quickly become unreadable.)

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I do not think "f'n" is circumventing the filter any more than saying "freaking" instead of "fu[/i]cking". I don't draw the line anywhere. I'm not the one in charge of programming the filter, so I'll leave that job to those that are. The only thing I'd consider unacceptable is using closing tags like I did above to display a whole filtered word. Frankly, I don't care if people use curses and I think it's pretty laughable that there's a filter at all. I know some of the admins want it though, so I have no problem with the rule that you can't directly circumvent it, which I consider to be finding ways to display strings of text that are not allowed.

entertainme 07-10-2007 06:11 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
Testing: Stick it up your ass [censored]

Posted as: Stick it up your a$$ a$$hole

Posted by Prickly Pete in the Brandi thread after I posted a warning that circumventing filter in that thread would result in ban.

Dids, please take Brandi back?


Dids 07-10-2007 06:15 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
lol,

Brandi isn't so much the problem as it's the legion of 19 year olds frustrated that she'd rather pal around with DS than them.

kyleb 07-10-2007 09:43 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
dickcockshit

profanity filter woo

4_2_it 07-11-2007 09:17 AM

Re: Profanity filter
 
Dids,

Would agree that Brandi is at least slightly batshit crazy?

Dids 07-11-2007 11:31 AM

Re: Profanity filter
 
4,

Yes I would. Here's to rooting for clouded judgement!!

*TT* 07-15-2007 12:57 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
ass holes

ass

[censored]

this is a surprise to me, ass is allowed? ass holes is not censored, but put the two words together and it is censored?

Dids 07-15-2007 01:49 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
Plz do not censor "ass"

GrannyMae 07-15-2007 02:01 PM

Re: Profanity filter
 
[ QUOTE ]
Phil Ivey is a strip club degen
in this thread we name investments better than staking TJ
Famous poker player caught in bed w/ another poker players' wife?
Which poker players look like they do drugs?
Card Runners Tech support is a joke.
Sexual variance
WTF my farts smell so bad they are preventing me from sleeping
Threeway turns weird--hot or not?
Girls & PhotoBucket Accounts *** NSFW ***
Beat: Made out w/ fattie in public
Best Jerking off session of my life
How do I stop my girlfriend making sounds during sex?
ask me about being the happiest guy alive (i.e. I just rubbed one out)
is smoking a blunt or eating mcdonalds worse for you?
Friend pisses in my bed....

[/ QUOTE ]

i'm kind of insulted that post-operative sex and the cat did not rank.
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