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luckyjimm 07-03-2007 02:56 PM

LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
Just saw this hand. I don't understand what LarsLuzak is doing on any street, except maybe the river. Any ideas? Why not just fold it?


Full Tilt Poker Game #2840871593: Table Canfield (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:52:17 ET - 2007/07/03
Seat 3: Phil Ivey ($22,794.50)
Seat 6: LarsLuzak ($33,196.50)
LarsLuzak has 5 seconds left to act
LarsLuzak posts the small blind of $200
Phil Ivey posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
LarsLuzak raises to $1,400
Phil Ivey calls $1,000
*** FLOP *** [Kh 4s 3c]
Phil Ivey checks
LarsLuzak bets $2,800
bacina sits down
Phil Ivey calls $2,800
*** TURN *** [Kh 4s 3c] [6c]
Phil Ivey checks
bacina adds $8,000
LarsLuzak has 15 seconds left to act
LarsLuzak bets $4,800
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey calls $4,800
*** RIVER *** [Kh 4s 3c 6c] [Kc]
Phil Ivey checks
LarsLuzak checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
LarsLuzak shows [Jc 2d] a pair of Kings
Phil Ivey shows [6d 7d] two pair, Kings and Sixes
Phil Ivey wins the pot ($17,999.50) with two pair, Kings and Sixes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $18,000 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Kh 4s 3c 6c Kc]
Seat 3: Phil Ivey (big blind) showed [6d 7d] and won ($17,999.50) with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 6: LarsLuzak (small blind) showed [Jc 2d] and lost with a pair of Kings

Isura 07-03-2007 02:59 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
play the man, not the cards

luckyjimm 07-03-2007 03:01 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
Mmm, but Ivey can of course call super-light. At best it could be "image play"?

07-03-2007 03:02 PM

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xxThe_Lebowskixx 07-03-2007 03:02 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
just because the hand is high stakes doesnt mean your question belongs in the hs forum

luckyjimm 07-03-2007 03:03 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
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so heads up with phil ivey one should never two barrel? interesting...

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Should you play J2 and keep going with it with no pair no draw?

capone0 07-03-2007 03:05 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
Turn he picks up a gut shot. I guess nobody double barrel bluffs. Do you really want a real answer here. Stick to the play money tables.

g-p 07-03-2007 03:06 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
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just because the hand is high stakes doesnt mean your question belongs in the hs forum

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wiggs73 07-03-2007 03:14 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
lucky, seriously wtf... he raises on the button and bets twice when checked to. this hand is about as uninteresting as they come.

iveyleague24 07-03-2007 03:24 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
LrsLzk is obv a Jethro Tull fan...duhhhrrrr

luckyjimm 07-03-2007 03:30 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
But why play J2 anyway???

capone0 07-03-2007 03:37 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
Do the cards really matter at most times in these games? Why play 23o? Cause I can.

oneouterson 07-03-2007 03:43 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
seriously ban

drj003 07-03-2007 04:10 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
It's heads up, he raised the button as you would if you decided to play the hand. He fired once on the flop and then a double barrell on the turn. This is very common. It doesn't matter that he had j2 heads up. It could have been 27. It's a standard heads up play. A lot of times he might have taken it down on the turn with the second bet.

1o BoY 07-03-2007 04:54 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
lost all respect for op

luckyjimm 07-03-2007 04:58 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
Lol... I don't play hold'em AT ALL so there goes. Have since last month stopped playing cash entirely, but for the previous two years I played exclusively mid/low-stakes PLO, so forgive me for not being a HU NLHE expert.

cts 07-03-2007 05:01 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
so why would you bother posting this here?

cts 07-03-2007 05:03 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
I think he played it fine too if he's gonna play it preflop which is loose but not horrible or anything, then postflop on this board texture he c-bets and then on the turn his plan is to 2barrel with the intention of firing a 3rd barrel on almost any river. Then the river came one of the few cards that's bad to continue a bluff on so he gave up.

greg nice 07-03-2007 05:07 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
BAN

TheWorstPlayer 07-03-2007 05:07 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
jim, i like your posts in nvg - but stay in nvg, please...

luckyjimm 07-03-2007 05:11 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
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I think he played it fine too if he's gonna play it preflop which is loose but not horrible or anything, then postflop on this board texture he c-bets and then on the turn his plan is to 2barrel with the intention of firing a 3rd barrel on almost any river. Then the river came one of the few cards that's bad to continue a bluff on so he gave up.

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I posted it so I could have it explained to me, which you've done. Thanks.

07-03-2007 05:11 PM

Post deleted by Mat Sklansky
 

RikaKazak 07-03-2007 06:33 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
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so heads up with phil ivey one should never two barrel? interesting...

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Should you play J2 and keep going with it with no pair no draw?

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he had a draw....5 for the str8 and he had J for the WINNNNNNN!!!!!!

catcher193 07-03-2007 06:40 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
easy valuebet on teh pre and on flop!

microbet 07-03-2007 06:43 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
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07-03-2007 06:49 PM

Post deleted by Mat Sklansky
 

Weever22 07-03-2007 09:34 PM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
dumbest thread ever.

etown 07-05-2007 01:35 AM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
he shoulda have at least triple barrelled

Wowliksom! 07-05-2007 05:32 AM

Re: LarsLuzak plays J2o vs Ivey - what is the point, eh?
 
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