1.10/45 Sats vs 1.10/45 Turbos
 

Sats pay 11 T$ to top 4, Turbos are 14 for first, 10 second, 7 third, 5 fifth, 3/2 sixth/seventh.

I'm thinking I can abuse the sat more, especially on a FT. Big stacks that I want to avoid tangling with with FE will fold, and when I'm the big stack (frequent occurance, but in the turbo even my big stack is a crapshoot), I can fold to my pay.

However, one is twice as fast as the other, which affects my hourly. I'm unsure of where to best invest my time?

Re: 1.10/45 Sats vs 1.10/45 Turbos
 

Bleh; after a few hours of playing my general consensus is that I hate 10 minute blinds in a 45 because it diffuses my aggression ramping with the levels and keeping my tables confused.

That + I'm pretty sure these sats are not as soft as the turbos simply on fact that the people who have realized they exist can breathe, which puts them above half the field of a typical 45.

Re: 1.10/45 Sats vs 1.10/45 Turbos
 

I think if you want to play sats you are better off with the 2.20's that pay a bunch of entries. They have turbos and regular speed so whichever you prefer.

Re: 1.10/45 Sats vs 1.10/45 Turbos
 

Yeah pretty much what I'm sticking to.


I can easily grind these 2.20s all day too, the lower variance will be enjoyable.

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Yeah, and it shouldn't be hard to get 30 or 40 seats this week.

Re: 1.10/45 Sats vs 1.10/45 Turbos
 

Except when...twice in one night I get called down by huge donks with nothing and get sucked out on.



These tournies = Soft. PSTars cold decking me is getting pretty [censored] hard :-/

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These tournies = Soft.

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In other news:
-The Sky is Blue
-My Left Hand Hurts
-There's a Hole in my Wall

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These tournies = Soft.

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LOL @ understatement

Final table, 5 left. Remember, these pay 4 seats:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

BB (t1269)
UTG (t38940)
MP (t1100)
Button (t17666)
Hero (t8525)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t38890</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t17616 (All-In), <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t619 (All-In).

Flop: (t57325) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t57325) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t57325) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t57325

Results below:
BB has Ah Ac (one pair, aces).
UTG has 2s 2d (one pair, twos).
Button has Kh As (high card, ace).
Outcome: UTG wins t55218. BB wins t2107.

Re: 1.10/45 Sats vs 1.10/45 Turbos
 

hmm, sry, where are those 2.20 on stars? ==&gt; not the DSO u were talking about?

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2.20's sound good, can't find em though??

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2.20's sound good, can't find em though??

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Are these SNGs or hourly MTTs or what?

And I'm assuming these are to the 10$ buyin 100k garonteed thing? This is rediculous. I'm playing this every week. When does it run??? (Ive been out of town for the weekend and am at work now)

One last question, if you are already registered for the 10$ tourney, and win another seat, they ship you the 11$ T$ right away instead of having to unregister every time??

Thanks for the info

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2.20's sound good, can't find em though??

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Are these SNGs or hourly MTTs or what?

And I'm assuming these are to the 10$ buyin 100k garonteed thing? This is rediculous. I'm playing this every week. When does it run??? (Ive been out of town for the weekend and am at work now)

One last question, if you are already registered for the 10$ tourney, and win another seat, they ship you the 11$ T$ right away instead of having to unregister every time??

Thanks for the info

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If you're already registered, you get T$11 automatically. (they can't register you for a 2nd time...)

Re: 1.10/45 Sats vs 1.10/45 Turbos
 

rofl I can't believe I played one of those 45 man sats today, I feel dirty:( At least I won.

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LOL - I just won one as well.

Anybody have any idea why these play out to the end, rather than ending as soon as it gets down to 4 players, like every other sat does?

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lol I felt the same way when I played one of the 70 fpp 10-man SnG's. Strangest 11 T$ I ever won

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LOL - I just won one as well.

Anybody have any idea why these play out to the end, rather than ending as soon as it gets down to 4 players, like every other sat does?

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I was wondering that too, I had to check the lobby multiple times to make sure there were 4 seats.

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Ok where are the 2.20s? are they the MTTs or are there sats which I can't find [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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lol donkaments

PokerStars Game #10737366571: Tournament #54387404, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/07/02 - 20:40:21 (ET)
Table '54387404 3' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: little b33 (4030 in chips)
Seat 2: razyn_kayn (1450 in chips)
Seat 3: Steroid Boy (1470 in chips)
Seat 5: bullet457 (2194 in chips)
Seat 6: u_squinny (1400 in chips)
Seat 7: UuMm I Call (3260 in chips)
Seat 8: MyDogBobby (423 in chips)
Seat 9: LuckELayD (2213 in chips)
razyn_kayn: posts small blind 15
Steroid Boy: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Steroid Boy [9c 3c]
bullet457: calls 30
u_squinny is connected
u_squinny: calls 30
UuMm I Call: calls 30
MyDogBobby: folds
LuckELayD: folds
little b33: folds
tlow1697 is connected
razyn_kayn: calls 15
Steroid Boy: checks
*** FLOP *** [5h 9d 9s]
razyn_kayn: checks
Steroid Boy: bets 60
little b33 said, "ty"
bullet457: calls 60
u_squinny: raises 240 to 300
UuMm I Call: folds
razyn_kayn: folds
Steroid Boy: raises 1140 to 1440 and is all-in
bullet457: raises 724 to 2164 and is all-in
u_squinny: folds
*** TURN *** [5h 9d 9s] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [5h 9d 9s Th] [4s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Steroid Boy: shows [9c 3c] (three of a kind, Nines)
bullet457: shows [9h 4h] (a full house, Nines full of Fours)
bullet457 collected 3330 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3330 | Rake 0
Board [5h 9d 9s Th 4s]
Seat 1: little b33 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: razyn_kayn (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Steroid Boy (big blind) showed [9c 3c] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 5: bullet457 showed [9h 4h] and won (3330) with a full house, Nines full of Fours
Seat 6: u_squinny folded on the Flop
Seat 7: UuMm I Call folded on the Flop
Seat 8: MyDogBobby folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: LuckELayD folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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lol donkaments

PokerStars Game #10737366571: Tournament #54387404, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/07/02 - 20:40:21 (ET)
Table '54387404 3' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: little b33 (4030 in chips)
Seat 2: razyn_kayn (1450 in chips)
Seat 3: Steroid Boy (1470 in chips)
Seat 5: bullet457 (2194 in chips)
Seat 6: u_squinny (1400 in chips)
Seat 7: UuMm I Call (3260 in chips)
Seat 8: MyDogBobby (423 in chips)
Seat 9: LuckELayD (2213 in chips)
razyn_kayn: posts small blind 15
Steroid Boy: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Steroid Boy [9c 3c]
bullet457: calls 30
u_squinny is connected
u_squinny: calls 30
UuMm I Call: calls 30
MyDogBobby: folds
LuckELayD: folds
little b33: folds
tlow1697 is connected
razyn_kayn: calls 15
Steroid Boy: checks
*** FLOP *** [5h 9d 9s]
razyn_kayn: checks
Steroid Boy: bets 60
little b33 said, "ty"
bullet457: calls 60
u_squinny: raises 240 to 300
UuMm I Call: folds
razyn_kayn: folds
Steroid Boy: raises 1140 to 1440 and is all-in
bullet457: raises 724 to 2164 and is all-in
u_squinny: folds
*** TURN *** [5h 9d 9s] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [5h 9d 9s Th] [4s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Steroid Boy: shows [9c 3c] (three of a kind, Nines)
bullet457: shows [9h 4h] (a full house, Nines full of Fours)
bullet457 collected 3330 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3330 | Rake 0
Board [5h 9d 9s Th 4s]
Seat 1: little b33 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: razyn_kayn (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Steroid Boy (big blind) showed [9c 3c] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 5: bullet457 showed [9h 4h] and won (3330) with a full house, Nines full of Fours
Seat 6: u_squinny folded on the Flop
Seat 7: UuMm I Call folded on the Flop
Seat 8: MyDogBobby folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: LuckELayD folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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Ummmmm...... I see nothing wrong, maybe you didnt notice that they were suited. The only surprising this is he slowplayed by limping, probably just mixing it up to make it tougher to put him on a hand.

Re: 1.10/45 Sats vs 1.10/45 Turbos
 

These sats are redic easy. I scored 2 seats out of 3 sats. The only one I lost, I was CL in and ran KK into 2nd places AA, then proceeded to lose 44 to 66 the next hand (had 20% of stack in in BB). So...definate bankroll builder. The only thing is, they do last a long time compared to the 1.10 turbos. That break is just killer. IT should be removed pronto.

Other than that quite happy and cant wait to play with all of these morons on sunday!!!

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I didn't even play a hand at the FT in the sat I got a seat in. Knocked out a decent sized stack in 11th to get to ~14k then folded in. Was 2/9 going in with 1st and 3rd on my left so I just let them blow up the small stacks. 1st place guy ended up imploding and going out 5th even though he got to 20k at the FT lol.

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I didn't even play a hand at the FT in the sat I got a seat in. Knocked out a decent sized stack in 11th to get to ~14k then folded in. Was 2/9 going in with 1st and 3rd on my left so I just let them blow up the small stacks. 1st place guy ended up imploding and going out 5th even though he got to 20k at the FT lol.

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At one of them, I came into the final table with 36k and second place had about 11, so i raised basically every other hand.

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Where are those Damn 2.20? lol

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For sho, those are some elusive little [censored]

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tournaments&gt;&gt;satellites&gt;&gt;sort by buy in

Re: 1.10/45 Sats vs 1.10/45 Turbos
 

I can't wait to hear how some shooter paid the full $11 buyin and how the sat donkeys are ruining it for him. Micro ballahs, Unite!!!!!!

Re: 1.10/45 Sats vs 1.10/45 Turbos
 

sadly, i dont think they have any $2.20 sitn gos, there mtts with 10 min blinds. they take too long and are not worth it for me but ya, not sngs. they show up in the tourney-&gt;satelite tab

Re: 1.10/45 Sats vs 1.10/45 Turbos
 

The 2.20's only seem to run at night, around 18:00 or 19:00 server time. They don't last much longer than the 1.10/45's since they end up paying out ~50 seats.

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Last night 2.20s started in the afternoon and ran every two hours until later that evening when it ran 1/hour or so. I caught the last one this morning at 10 or so (busted 36th; 30 paid lawl; triple bad beats + card dead while I watched....horrible bubble play); keeping eyes open for others popping up.

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Nevermind; About 15 just popped up starting in an hour.

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Sadly, I could not win a 2.20 tonight.... I played 2. I had to qualify in a 1.10 instead. Had the biggest donk ever to my right, then changed tables and he was to my left. He called everything and I mean everything and almost qualified. Sokay, I used that against him and took from his stack in some key situations to build to 48M at final table. Only had to play a couple of hands and put out the 5th place finisher.

Re: 1.10/45 Sats vs 1.10/45 Turbos
 

I've been running so bad in these; immensely :P.

However, finally took two down back to back and won back all my losses....I like sats....a lot.


Honestly, I fully plan to grind out the 2.20 permanently. It's soft as all hell (bad flipping variance = running bad), and it's possible to have an M lower than .04 and still win...I saw 10 guys get away with it tonight.

Edit: and the 2.20s look to be officially running 24/7 now.

Re: 1.10/45 Sats vs 1.10/45 Turbos
 

so...why would is it so +EV to play in the $2.20 instead of the $1 45?

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The 2.20's give out 40-50 seats and the 1.10's give out 4.

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Don't laugh, but I'm currently grinding $1.20 STTs. (OK, go ahead and laugh. Easily beatable even with the 20% rake, and I'm building a roll after turning 3000 play chips into $12. Bankroll management FTW.)

I throw in one of these $1.10s along with 2 $1.20 STTs per session now, but I'll never beat them if I don't stop BLUFFING GODDAMN CALLING STATIONS and running bad with big pairs. 0/3 so far, but the play is possibly worse than the play money games.

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Don't laugh, but I'm currently grinding $1.20 STTs. (OK, go ahead and laugh. Easily beatable even with the 20% rake, and I'm building a roll after turning 3000 play chips into $12. Bankroll management FTW.)

I throw in one of these $1.10s along with 2 $1.20 STTs per session now, but I'll never beat them if I don't stop BLUFFING GODDAMN CALLING STATIONS and running bad with big pairs. 0/3 so far, but the play is possibly worse than the play money games.

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I've heard this before.

Please explain how you turned 3000 play money chips into real $$$.

Does it involve selling them on ebay? Freerolls? Something else?

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lol sats
PokerStars Game #10762893154: Tournament #54489441, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/07/04 - 09:57:28 (ET)
Table '54489441 11' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Franconello (1490 in chips)
Seat 2: winslade1981 (2410 in chips)
Seat 3: Plassmann (2795 in chips)
Seat 5: Shakey90 (1190 in chips)
Seat 6: rtrtrtr (1720 in chips)
Seat 7: ASAjr (2455 in chips)
Seat 8: Steroid Boy (1510 in chips)
Seat 9: Rob314 (1390 in chips)
Steroid Boy: posts small blind 15
Rob314: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Steroid Boy [Kh Ac]
Franconello: calls 30
winslade1981: folds
Plassmann: calls 30
Shakey90: folds
rtrtrtr: calls 30
ASAjr: calls 30
Steroid Boy: raises 1480 to 1510 and is all-in
Rob314: folds
Franconello: calls 1460 and is all-in
Plassmann: folds
rtrtrtr: folds
ASAjr: folds
Plassmann is sitting out
*** FLOP *** [Jh Tc Qs]
*** TURN *** [Jh Tc Qs] [6h]
*** RIVER *** [Jh Tc Qs 6h] [7s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Steroid Boy: shows [Kh Ac] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Franconello: shows [As 3c] (high card Ace)
Steroid Boy collected 3100 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3100 | Rake 0
Board [Jh Tc Qs 6h 7s]
Seat 1: Franconello showed [As 3c] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 2: winslade1981 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Plassmann folded before Flop
Seat 5: Shakey90 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: rtrtrtr folded before Flop
Seat 7: ASAjr (button) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Steroid Boy (small blind) showed [Kh Ac] and won (3100) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 9: Rob314 (big blind) folded before Flop

Re: 1.10/45 Sats vs 1.10/45 Turbos
 

So, what do you guys think? 1/45 reg vs 1/45 sat? I think the sat will be sweet. Altough ending first in the regular isn't that hard either (and +4$).

And I would love to see the $2.2 in 15 minute blinds. They might take too long but reduces the crapshoot near the bubble alot.

By the way, the 100k has a maximum of 15000 participants. But at the current rate and seeing that the sats are getting more popular too I guess the limit will be reached before sunday. What will happen to the sats? Will you just get straight T's or do they get canceled?