wherein i get cute with aces
 

villain is 20/0/3 after a few dozen hands. so basically disregard this. no read on his limp/calling range or postflop style as table has been fairly passive.

i figured i was going to get two streets of value from pocket pairs as it was and this might induce him to turn those and air into bluffs. thus, i can get value from ALL of his range, potentially.

is this too much of a reach without a read?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $31.70
Hero (BB): $101.45
UTG: $101.40
MP: $86.15
CO: $180.95
BTN: $103.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, 3 folds, SB calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, UTG calls $5.00, SB folds

Flop: ($13) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($13) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $9.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $40.00</font>, Hero calls $31.00

River: ($93) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $55.40</font>, Hero calls $55.40

Pot Size: $203.80 ($3 Rake)

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 

i dont see why he would raise he turn w/ a pp i dont like readless. I'd fold the turn, i know it's weak but even if he is bluffing i don't think you can profitably call down

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 

no. but dont be surprised to see A2

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 

This is pretty marginal but I like it.

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 

ugh, this is the first hand I've read today thats confused me, I sometimes fold the turn, really depends on read though.

I really dislike not betting the flop here, that turn spot is disgusting, yep, you def butchered this hand on the flop.

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ugh, this is the first hand I've read today thats confused me, I sometimes fold the turn, really depends on read though.

I really dislike not betting the flop here, that turn spot is disgusting, yep, you def butchered this hand on the flop.

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flop play is EV+. READ ISURAS BLOG AND YOU'D KNOW.

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 

I'd guess you're crushed a lot here; Villain is calling down with a hand like 55. I don't see the point in his turn raise with a smaller pair you're beating.

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 

this isn't a brag; i always post results. i decided right away i was going to try something different with this and see how it turned out.

the board was extremely benign and i figured enough of his range was air (non pocket pairs) that there might be more value in tricking him into bluffing with these than trying to milk a small PP. keep in mind there are exactly four cards in the deck (other than 77) that beat me and zero combos of A2s.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $31.70
Hero (BB): $101.45
UTG: $101.40
MP: $86.15
CO: $180.95
BTN: $103.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, 3 folds, SB calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, UTG calls $5.00, SB folds

Flop: ($13) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($13) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $9.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $40.00</font>, Hero calls $31.00

River: ($93) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $55.40</font>, Hero calls $55.40

Pot Size: $203.80 ($3 Rake)

UTG had 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ([6c 9c] two pair, Kings and Twos) and LOST (-$101.40)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Kings) and WON (+$99.40)

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 

so sick.

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 

this is wp

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so sick.

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yeah i mean his play is insaine. esp with those stats. his raise on the turn doesnt really make sense if hes holding a k. but still .. soooo sick

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 

im not really a fan of this, but i mean you arent really repping a K here so i think hes like zomg time to bluff.

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 

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I'd guess you're crushed a lot here; Villain is calling down with a hand like 55. I don't see the point in his turn raise with a smaller pair you're beating.

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there is a fine line between having showdown value and getting taken to valuetown. if a raise folds out the top of my range on down, then raising is clearly superior to calling down with anything less than or equal to the top of my range

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 

nice. his turn bet did look mighty big for a king. esp with the flop check. but thats usually how i justify getting my money in light....and not always good..
nh sir

Re: wherein i get cute with aces
 

He's NEVER bluffing on the river. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

You just got lucky you played it good and he decided to get ambitious. Luckbox.

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I'd guess you're crushed a lot here; Villain is calling down with a hand like 55. I don't see the point in his turn raise with a smaller pair you're beating.

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there is a fine line between having showdown value and getting taken to valuetown. if a raise folds out the top of my range on down, then raising is clearly superior to calling down with anything less than or equal to the top of my range

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I'll stand by my feeling that this is thin -- especially at NL 100 -- but CA, you have earned my respect so long ago that I not only trust your decision here, I also have learned a bit from this hand.