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Unknown Soldier 06-27-2007 09:17 PM

AA hand crap flop, 200nl
 
Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $322.40
BB: $94.00
US (UTG): $199.00
BTN: $418.15

Preflop: US is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">US raises to $7.00</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $6.00, BB folds

Flop: ($16) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $10.00</font>, <font color="red">US raises to $35.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $60.00</font>, US calls $25.00

Turn: ($136) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets all-in for $255.40</font>, US folds

Pot Size: $391.40


similar situation to other hand in regards to read, he was like 55/15/2 over 30ish hands. Not seen him do too much

I figured there's so many combos of 2pr plus str8 out there that beat me so i froze up when he 3b me

FenixOnTilt 06-27-2007 09:19 PM

Re: AA hand crap flop, 200nl
 
hmm i guess he's not min 3betting u with worse hands here. dunno why u called the flop3bet if you fold the turn anyway. dunno if i could lay down vs. the flop 3bet either, but i guess it's the right play... we obv. only have like 4 outs.

Unknown Soldier 06-27-2007 09:23 PM

Re: AA hand crap flop, 200nl
 
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dunno why u called the flop3bet if you fold the turn anyway.

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i was getting good odds to see what he'd do next. I was hoping he'd slow down some of the time Maybe KT/K9 might play like this and slow down, or a flush draw some of the time. It was a marginal call at best though, probably should have just folded if i was planning on folding to a blank turn (which i was)

Jay Riall 06-27-2007 09:30 PM

Re: AA hand crap flop, 200nl
 
I call the flop donk.

keikiwai 06-27-2007 09:31 PM

Re: AA hand crap flop, 200nl
 
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I call the flop donk.

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then you raise a blank turn and fold to a bet on this particular turn?

Speedlimits 06-27-2007 09:32 PM

Re: AA hand crap flop, 200nl
 
yeah i'd flat call. prob just c/c all the way down unless board get's really ugly.

GrandMelon 06-27-2007 09:32 PM

Re: AA hand crap flop, 200nl
 
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I call the flop donk.

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Board is way too drawy for this IMO

Jay Riall 06-27-2007 09:33 PM

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I call the flop donk.

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then you raise a blank turn and fold to a bet on this particular turn?

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I wouldn't raise anywhere unless I hit the straight.

Unknown Soldier 06-27-2007 09:34 PM

Re: AA hand crap flop, 200nl
 
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I call the flop donk.

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Board is way too drawy for this IMO

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that was my thinking

Speedlimits 06-27-2007 09:35 PM

Re: AA hand crap flop, 200nl
 
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I call the flop donk.

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Board is way too drawy for this IMO

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not really i mean at best we're prob a coin flip. c/c line maximizes profit when we're ahead and minimizes damage. when we're behind

Jay Riall 06-27-2007 10:01 PM

Re: AA hand crap flop, 200nl
 
Didn't notice the read. Calling still isn't bad, I would def call vs a lot of sane players. I fold to the 3bet tho.

Speedlimits 06-27-2007 10:03 PM

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Didn't notice the read. Calling still isn't bad, I would def call vs a lot of sane players. I fold to the 3bet tho.

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30 hands isn't much of a read imo.

Bukem_ 06-27-2007 10:33 PM

Re: AA hand crap flop, 200nl
 
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I call the flop donk.

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So do I, but if I was going to raise this flop vs 55/12 drooler the money goes in. I'm not raising for information.

Jay Riall 06-27-2007 10:35 PM

Re: AA hand crap flop, 200nl
 
I go so far as to say raising here vs any non-huge-donk is a leak imo.

Nielsio 06-27-2007 10:36 PM

Re: AA hand crap flop, 200nl
 
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I call the flop donk.

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So do I, but if I was going to raise this flop vs 55/12 drooler the money goes in. I'm not raising for information.

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Unknown Soldier 06-27-2007 10:37 PM

Re: AA hand crap flop, 200nl
 
yeah i think you're right jay

Jamougha 06-27-2007 11:13 PM

Re: AA hand crap flop, 200nl
 
AA on a 3-broadway board is a piece of crap. just call the flop bet. Fold to the 3-bet.

R6MC 06-27-2007 11:56 PM

Re: AA hand crap flop, 200nl
 
raising the flop is spewage, calling may allow drawing hands to stick around but meh, fold to the 3 bet as played, and obviously fold to turn bet


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