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GrannyMae 06-25-2007 07:06 PM

SYTYCD odds on individual contestants now posted!!
 
we asked, and we received!

Odds On: Who will be the Winner of the Fox reality show "So You Think You Can Dance"? Any wagers placed after results become public knowledge will be no action. Max. $50.
Kameron Bink
11/1

Anya Garnis
10/1

Jaimie Goodwin
8/1

Lauren Gottlieb
8/1

Neil Haskell
9/1

Hokuto "Hok" Konishi
7/1

Lacey Schwimmer
10/1

Jesús Solorio
15/2

Danny Tidwell
10/1

Sara Von Gillern
12/1

Jessi Peralta
13/1

Dominic Sandoval
14/1

Sabra Johnson
15/1

Pasha Kovalev
15/1

Shauna Noland
16/1

Cedric Gardner
18/1


who do YOU like? these are some very nice early odds. soon to tighten up on the better dancers i am sure.

Aloysius 06-25-2007 10:23 PM

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Thanks Granny - my main takeaway is that Hok has no chance I'd put Danny as the male favorite (and I guess by default favorite to win it all? I'm not sure I'm completely sold on a male has to win this thing).

Lacey is the woman to beat - I had high hopes for Lauren but she hasn't shown much yet and her partner is not that great.

-Al

GrannyMae 06-25-2007 10:50 PM

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(and I guess by default favorite to win it all? I'm not sure I'm completely sold on a male has to win this thing).

Lacey is the woman to beat - I had high hopes for Lauren but she hasn't shown much yet and her partner is not that great.


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i'm starting to believe that lacey could win, and starting to doubt that any male can. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

StellarWind 06-26-2007 12:20 AM

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My thoughts. Caveat: I haven't watched the show before this season.

In my mind the five major candidates to win are Anya, Lacey, Danny, Kameron, and Pasha.

Lacey Schwimmer 10/1 - She's the star of the hottest partnership around and one of the top two women. I have to think her experience with her brother will help her make the right decisions as the event progresses.

Kameron Bink 11/1 - He's well liked and talented. I'd guess he's one of the top three men.

Anya Garnis 10/1 - My personal favorite. Her partnership with Danny is very strong and she has to be regarded as one of the top two women.

Danny Tidwell 10/1 - I like him and he's another one of the top 3 men.

Jaimie Goodwin 8/1 - She tries hard outside of her style but she's nothing special. She'll probably hang around for a while but I can't see her winning. Certainly the line makes her a sucker bet.

Hokuto "Hok" Konishi 7/1 - Dead money despite his obvious popularity. No chance at all because he can only do his hip-hop thing. The judges will pick him apart as things tighten up.

Lauren Gottlieb 8/1 - She could be the best of the rest of the girls but her partnership with Neil is a little awkward and not special. Faina just demonstrated how harmful repeated trips to the bottom 3 can be. It's just too hard to prep a new solo dance every week and go against girls who have been working on the same dance-for-life since the beginning of the show. Even if she outlives Neil she'll be paired with someone else who killed their partner.

Neil Haskell 9/1 - Completely ordinary and a sucker bet at 9-1.

Sara Von Gillern 12/1 - B girl with no formal training or previous experience in heels is dead money.

Jesús Solorio 15/2 - Perhaps he has an outside chance but 15/2 is ridiculous and Sara is no asset.

Jessi Peralta 13/1 - Did you see her solo for her life? She will never last come crunch time. Plus she and Pasha were B3 last week. I totally don't understand that but it's a terrible sign.

Pasha Kovalev 15/1 - Pasha is outstanding but he's trapped with a second rate partner. Any more trips to the B3 will take their toll while his main competitors are on easy street in strong partnerships. Still 15-1 looks very tempting.

Sabra Johnson 15/1 - The invisible women of this competition. She's got skill but lack of stage presence and an unsatisfactory partner in Dominic mean she has little chance. This partnership could be a regular visitor to B3 until it breaks.

Dominic Sandoval 14/1 - Dead money lacking basic skills.

Shauna Noland 16/1 - I really like Shauna but she probably isn't good enough. Maybe if she got more suitable material I might change this opinion. Plus she might as well skip choreography this week and work only on her solo because her new partnership with Cedric has no chance. Her only hope to even hang around is to outlive Cedric and luck into a better partner.

Cedric Gardner 18/1 - Do you have to ask? There is little excuse for the judges' decision last week to keep him around. He totally lacks the ability to do anything but solo and everyone knows it.

Aloysius 06-26-2007 01:13 AM

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My thoughts. Caveat: I haven't watched the show before this season.

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Me neither - I guess we are looking for something to find the Idol void [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Haha - nice analysis I pretty much agree with you, except:

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Anya Garnis 10/1 - My personal favorite. Her partnership with Danny is very strong and she has to be regarded as one of the top two women.

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Possibility she may be exposed in the coming weeks? I'm not sure how versatile she is (unlike her partner Danny, who I think can handle most things thrown at him). Also, as an aside, the whole partnering thing is pretty interesting (e.g. think Lauren is being held back by her partner as mentioned above, and certainly Cedric's inability to execute killed Faina's chances).

Granny:

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i'm starting to believe that lacey could win, and starting to doubt that any male can.

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Think Danny is going to start separating himself very soon. Not sure how charismatic / well-rounded a dancer he is, but he's the most talented male left I think. Pasha looked (imo) strong on his modern dance number - which leads me to believe he has range and proficiency across styles, think he's #2 male right now.

-Al

NoChance 06-26-2007 12:32 PM

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My favorite was Faina. So. Damn. Sexy. Too bad she was partnered with Cedrick and he sucks. I was actually hoping for bottom 3 last week so they could let Cedrick go and get her a new partner. Blew my mind when they let her go and kept him. Oh well.

Anyway, now I like Anya. With the ballroom background all of her moves are very precise.

*Also never watched before this year and also have no idea on how to judge them. I just know what my eyes like to see!

Aloysius 06-26-2007 12:52 PM

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***SPOILERS FOR THIS WEEK'S SHOW***

I guess this show is pre-taped also? Got sent these spoilers by my friend (they are from IdolForums):

Judges: Nigel, Mary, and Debbie Allen

Taping was a mess. A girl fainted. Things were re-shot several times.

1. Jesus & Sara got a Krump routine with Lil C. All the judges liked it and they were very impressed with Jesus since he was out of his element.

2. Cedric & Shauna got Contemporary with Mia. Shauna was very very good. Cedric was sitting on the floor for about 25 seconds. The judges said he needed to step it up, and he didn’t and they think it’s time for him to go. Debbie Allen also offered him a scholarship for her dance academy because she wants to see him train.

3. Kameron & Lacey got Quickstep with Tony Meredith. They had to film the dance twice. The choreography was really good and the judges really liked it. They enjoyed both dancers. The person who went said it was the first time she was enertained by a Quickstep.

4. Danny & Anya got Hip-Hop with Dan Karaty. It was actually good coming from Dan. The judges thought it was the weakest style the couple had done. The judges expected more from them since they’ve both been held to such a high standard.

5. Dominic and Sabra got a Rumba by Jean-Marc Generaux. They were really good and all the judges liked it.

6. Neil & Lauren got a Tango by Jean-Marc Generaux. The judges thought they could have been smoother, it looked like they were hopping at times. Mary didn’t like it. They said Neil looked a little bit sloppy. One girl who went wants to rape Neil. The other girl said Lauren’s REALLY into herself as she didn’t even look at Neil for most of the dance.

7. Hok & Jaimie worked with Wade on a Jazz routine. Wade described the routine as ecclectic. Said it was his version of ballet. Hok was supposed to be a hummingbird, Jaimie was a flower. It was supposed to be a love story. It was really really good and both of them danced it extremely well. The judges felt Wade did a good job of catering to both of their styles.

8. Pasha & Tony Meredith’s assistant got a Cha Cha by Tony Meredith. OK, here’s the deal with Jessi. Apparently, she hadn’t been feeling well at all during the show and had to be rushed to the hospital where they found out she has some kind of heart problem. If she is well enough to dance on Thursday, she will have to dance a solo, whether Pasha is in the bottom three or not. If Pasha is not in the bottom three then there will still be 3 girls in the bottom three, as well as Jessi and she will be in comparison with all the other girls in the bottom. If she is not well enough to dance on Thursday then she will be cut from the competition. On to Pasha. He was really good and really hot even though he had to dance with an old lady.

StellarWind 06-26-2007 02:15 PM

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My favorite was Faina. So. Damn. Sexy. Too bad she was partnered with Cedrick and he sucks. I was actually hoping for bottom 3 last week so they could let Cedrick go and get her a new partner. Blew my mind when they let her go and kept him. Oh well.

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I was ecstatic when they let her go. She is sexy and a really good dancer but she rubbed me completely the wrong way. Her attitude was just terrible.

She seemed to be phoning it in during her hip-hop routine the first week. Almost as if she was too good to be bothered with that kind of dancing. Sharp contrast with Jaime (Hok's partner) who was in the exact same spot but gave an enthusiastic 100% effort.

Then came the judging last Wednesday. If you watch several of the more successful couples it's obvious that they really like and support each other. But Faina hung Cedric out to dry. She made every possible effort through facial expressions and body language to distance herself and convey that this had absolutely nothing to do with her.

This is supposed to be entertainment and I don't want to watch that.

StellarWind 06-28-2007 12:45 AM

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Looks like a foregone conclusion that Pasha and Shauna will be partners next week. Only a miracle will prevent Nigel and Mary from their declared intention to oust Cedric Thursday night. Meanwhile Jessi's chances look dim even if she shows up from the hospital to dance for her life. Terrible solo last week + illness + loss of practice time is a devastating combination. BTW this is apparently her second hospitialization. A week and a half ago it was severe dehydration.

I don't consider Shauna to be more than an outside contender but she is a good dancer. Getting her in place of unreliable Jessi could be a major break for Pasha.

Shauna getting Pasha would also be a measure of justice after Jimmy was unfairly taken away from her last week. All's well that ends well. Except for Jimmy of course [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].

Aloysius 06-28-2007 02:45 AM

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Well - at least Cedric's got that Debbie Allen Dance Academy scholarship! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Man, he looked terrible and deserves to go. It's fairly hilarious that Mia choreographed Cedric out of the routine for a good portion (sobbing in the corner) to hide him.

Overall don't think we got much new information, and everyone's about where I thought they were last week. Though as you mention, Stellar, Pasha (who I like alot) could get a real lift from having a stronger partner in Shauna.

Anya disappointed a bit (she looked pretty bad hip hop definitely not her thing, imo) and Dominic impressed me, but nothing to really change my mind.

-Al

skunkworks 06-28-2007 03:27 PM

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Dominic has impressed with every routine. He won't win, but he should get down to Top 10 at least. Anya did not look good, but Danny is definitely a favorite. Neil and Lauren were awful with their ballroom routine.

Hok's ballroom from the previous week was terrible, but this week's "Jazz" routine by Wade Robson was beyond incredible. I wait to see whether Hok becomes exposed with tougher choreography that isn't so mindful of his strengths and limitations; this will be sad since I am rooting for him big time. I was kind of lukewarm on the krumping from Jesus and Sara, but they shouldn't be in danger. Cedric is definitely gone, but Shauna will probably make it out of the bottom 3. I hope Jessi doesn't get shafted though, because she's hot and has shown moments of brilliance.

StellarWind 06-28-2007 06:09 PM

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I hope Jessi doesn't die though, because she's hot and has shown moments of brilliance.

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FYP.

Seriously. In two weeks she has been hospitalized for severe dehydration and then hospitalized again with a heart problem. Do you think this is going to end well if she keeps going much longer?

GrannyMae 06-29-2007 01:18 AM

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I hope Jessi doesn't die though, because she's hot and has shown moments of brilliance.

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FYP.

Seriously. In two weeks she has been hospitalized for severe dehydration and then hospitalized again with a heart problem. Do you think this is going to end well if she keeps going much longer?

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i'm again convinced that a male will win this thing. the contest is basically lacey VS all the males. no other female can win.

skunkworks 06-29-2007 03:43 AM

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I'm fully convinced that she got axed because of her medical problems tonight. What a friggin' gyp. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Lauren's solo was terrible, but not as terrible as Anya's.

Aloysius 06-29-2007 12:50 PM

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Skunk - ok... you were right. Jessi is pretty damn hot. Nigel's disgusted reaction / dismissal of Jessi last night, when informing her she was eliminated was just... weird.

Lauren deserved to go. Danny is still very much the male favorite. And agree with Granny, I think only Lacey has a legit shot to take this down from the girl side.

-Al

skunkworks 06-29-2007 01:04 PM

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I can't even begin to fathom how Cedric's speech managed to save him this week.

Aloysius 06-29-2007 01:25 PM

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Cedric's very likeable and gave a heartfelt, humble speech - normally this stuff doesn't register with me (ie I don't care) but I was a bit.... moved.

Also it certainly helped that Cedric got slammed by Mary... sympathy votes + people voting for Shauna saved him from the B3.

-Al

skunkworks 06-29-2007 01:48 PM

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Dude, I am totally not criticizing Cedric's speech -- it was fantastic and very, very genuine -- but was America watching the same dance routine I was?

Aloysius 06-29-2007 01:58 PM

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Skunk - obviously the horror show that was his dance routine didn't matter this week, was my point. Though unlike Idol, (I'm guessing SYTYCD is a more discerning voting base wrt performance), don't think this will propel him past next week if he gets slammed again (which he will I'm thinking).

-Al

StellarWind 06-29-2007 02:16 PM

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I'm fully convinced that she got axed because of her medical problems tonight. What a friggin' gyp. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Lauren's solo was terrible, but not as terrible as Anya's.

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Jessi's solo was terrible and I don't have any problem with someone who says it was the worst.

My personal take was Lauren's was the worst, Jessi next but very close, Anya also very close, and Sara the best by a fair amount but still not very good.

Jesus beat all four of them. He picked the wrong week to be male B3.

Given that the solo competition was so close I don't have any problem with the judges considering other factors in eliminating Jessi. This is part of the show and they said as much concerning Cedric. First off this is her second terrible solo in a row and she deserved to go last week. More important two hospitalizations for severe dehydration is not a joking matter. A dancer who doesn't take care of herself isn't doing her job. It's very dangerous and it isn't fair to her partner, the other contestants, or the hundreds of people who work every day on the show. What if she had died and thrown the whole SYTYCD franchise into a crisis?

GrannyMae 06-29-2007 02:31 PM

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I'm fully convinced that she got axed because of her medical problems tonight. What a friggin' gyp. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Lauren's solo was terrible, but not as terrible as Anya's.

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Jessi's solo was terrible and I don't have any problem with someone who says it was the worst.

My personal take was Lauren's was the worst, Jessi next but very close, Anya also very close, and Sara the best by a fair amount but still not very good.

Jesus beat all four of them. He picked the wrong week to be male B3.

Given that the solo competition was so close I don't have any problem with the judges considering other factors in eliminating Jessi. This is part of the show and they said as much concerning Cedric. First off this is her second terrible solo in a row and she deserved to go last week. More important two hospitalizations for severe dehydration is not a joking matter. A dancer who doesn't take care of herself isn't doing her job. It's very dangerous and it isn't fair to her partner, the other contestants, or the hundreds of people who work every day on the show. What if she had died and thrown the whole SYTYCD franchise into a crisis?

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the female solo's were close (in horridness). however, on the male side jesus had to go. the other 2 were fanfuckingtastic.

trumpjosh 06-30-2007 12:37 AM

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Cedric = American Idol's Sanjaya (sp probably, but who cares...)

Quadstriker 06-30-2007 03:40 AM

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Cedric can at least do ONE thing well.

GrannyMae 06-30-2007 06:19 PM

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Cedric can at least do ONE thing well.

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imo, it is becomming old hat. it is ALL he does.

Quadstriker 07-01-2007 03:20 AM

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Cedric can at least do ONE thing well.

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imo, it is becomming old hat. it is ALL he does.

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Oh I agree fully. But I still wouldn't got as far as Sanjayaing him.

trumpjosh 07-02-2007 03:15 AM

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Probably too harsh of me, but I was more referring to the way the voting went than his actual ability. He can do his thing VERY well, but does anyone seriously think he should still be around?

Zygote 07-02-2007 03:12 PM

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where are you able to place these bets? Ive been looking for an exchange or bookmaker.

Quadstriker 07-02-2007 04:45 PM

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but does anyone seriously think he should still be around?

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NO.

volkin 07-02-2007 04:49 PM

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Bodog posted these bets for a few days last week then took them down. I don't know of anyplace to bet on it right now.

Zygote 07-03-2007 02:23 AM

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Bodog posted these bets for a few days last week then took them down. I don't know of anyplace to bet on it right now.

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bodog doesnt register canadians anyways. any other suggestions?

GrannyMae 07-03-2007 10:34 PM

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Bodog posted these bets for a few days last week then took them down. I don't know of anyplace to bet on it right now.

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i got 2 buys in before they took them down. max bets on neil and danny. yes, i know, both in last weeks bottom 3. i got great odds tho, and i love the bets. i've also got max on male to win before everyone bought this up.

i would LOVE a neil win.

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curtains 07-05-2007 09:24 AM

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Lacey is awesome

Aloysius 07-06-2007 04:12 AM

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Lacey is awesome

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QFT

GrannyMae 07-06-2007 10:44 PM

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i have been cheating.

i only watch the results show. recap is good enough because i don't want to devote 3 hrs/wk watching this show. from my limited exposure, she is clearly the cream of the female crop, but i still say she gets eliminated perhaps 3rd.

bigalt 07-07-2007 02:09 AM

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hah that's too bad, because outside of maybe project runway this is one of the only reality shows where the people are actually quite good at what they're competing in.

GrannyMae 07-08-2007 01:27 PM

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hah that's too bad, because outside of maybe project runway this is one of the only reality shows where the people are actually quite good at what they're competing in.

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i still get to see a ton of dancing on the results show. also, when it is down to fewer contestants and thus a 1 hr. performance show, i'll probably watch.

curtains 07-08-2007 05:58 PM

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Yeah this is by far my favorite reality show, head and shoulders above American Idol IMO, because everyone is very good.

volkin 07-11-2007 08:47 PM

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Bodog put the lines back up

felson 07-12-2007 01:57 AM

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New lines:



Odds On: Who will be the Winner of the Fox reality show "So You Think You Can Dance"? Any wagers placed after results become public knowledge will be no action. Max. $50.
Kameron Bink
10/1

Anya Garnis
21/2

Jaimie Goodwin
8/1

Lauren Gottlieb
17/2

Neil Haskell
9/1

Hokuto "Hok" Konishi
7/1

Lacey Schwimmer
8/1

Danny Tidwell
19/2

Sara Von Gillern
12/1

Dominic Sandoval
14/1

Sabra Johnson
15/1

Pasha Kovalev
15/1

Shauna Noland
16/1

Cedric Gardner
18/1

StellarWind 07-13-2007 02:06 AM

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Did anyone else notice tonight that the opening group number was a girl short? I froze the picture in several places and counted seven guys and six girls.

I'm pretty sure Anya was the missing girl. Could she be injured?

I'm sorry to see Shauna leave. She's been a very solid performer and she clearly outdanced Anya tonight. She's been a victim of bad draws, second-best choreography, the unfair decision to cut Jimmy, and finally the Cedric Experience. I hope she finds a good dancing job.


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