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Grundle 06-25-2007 01:54 PM

ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
http://www.cardplayer.com/tournament...player_id=9744

Who was it?

Bicycles_Biatch 06-25-2007 01:58 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
that's a weak angle.

Exposing cards is total crap.

augie_ 06-25-2007 02:04 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
can someone find out what % ZJ has of himself? i am quite curious.

Mr.JR 06-25-2007 02:06 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
Robert Williamson III.

http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-fo...p;#entry1964563

toutatis70 06-25-2007 02:08 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
And what about TJ and the Mouth, thought they were busto. Someone must think they are a good investment huh.

olieovie 06-25-2007 02:16 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
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can someone find out what % ZJ has of himself? i am quite curious.

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600%?

youcanhaveitall 06-25-2007 02:19 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
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can someone find out what % ZJ has of himself? i am quite curious.

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600%?

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Someone please post Stevies monologue from Family Guy (with pic)

shaniac 06-25-2007 02:25 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
Pathetic on the part of the angle-shooter.

ifoughtpiranhas 06-25-2007 02:27 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
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Robert Williamson III.

http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-fo...p;#entry1964563

[/ QUOTE ] danny n always pulls thru

mattnxtc 06-25-2007 02:30 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
anybody wanna post the text for those of us at work? thanks

Adde 06-25-2007 02:31 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
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can someone find out what % ZJ has of himself? i am quite curious.

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600%?

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Fresh stuff. Can't. Stop. Laughing.

NicksDad1970 06-25-2007 02:31 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
Yes plz post text.

I've always heard great things about RWIII

btmagnetw 06-25-2007 02:32 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
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can someone find out what % ZJ has of himself? i am quite curious.

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600%?

[/ QUOTE ]YOU SHOULD OPEN UP SOME SNGS TO NEGATE YOUR ADVANTAGE FROM POSTING SUCH FUNNY JOKES

ifoughtpiranhas 06-25-2007 02:33 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
from FCP forum
danny ns response
"I was at the next table and felt like Justin was definitely getting screwed. The hand was against Robert Williamson. The first floorman made the right ruling, but I believe that the second floorman that overruled him was incorrect. "

Tony Eusebio 06-25-2007 02:35 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
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can someone find out what % ZJ has of himself? i am quite curious.

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600%?

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Fresh stuff. Can't. Stop. Laughing.

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tiger_hall 06-25-2007 02:35 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
igt looks like he is telling the truth...

grando 06-25-2007 02:36 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
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can someone find out what % ZJ has of himself? i am quite curious.

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600%?

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this was pretty good

sightless 06-25-2007 02:39 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
thats pretty disgusting

mindcirkus 06-25-2007 02:53 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
Unfortunately dishonesty in poker isn't all that uncommon. I heard of an incident a while back where some kid got caught playing multiple accounts in the same online tournaments.

kemystery 06-25-2007 02:56 PM

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anybody wanna post the text for those of us at work? thanks

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I was at the next table and felt like Justin was definitely getting screwed. The hand was against Robert Williamson. The first floorman made the right ruling, but I believe that the second floorman that overruled him was incorrect.

Adde 06-25-2007 02:58 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
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Unfortunately dishonesty in poker isn't all that uncommon. I heard of an incident a while back where some kid got caught playing multiple accounts in the same online tournaments.

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Wow! Clever. Can't. Stop. Laughing.

Dids 06-25-2007 03:09 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
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anybody wanna post the text for those of us at work? thanks

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Don't do this. I will ban you. Ready sticky.

antisocialgrace 06-25-2007 03:10 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
Am I the only one who finds it incredible this kid expects a sympathetic audience when he whines about being hustled at the felt?

Another thing I'm really tired of are these ignorant tards (in this case in the Full Contact Forum) who keep trying to polish Justin's image with repeated banalities to the effect of "he came clean and admitted his wrong, it's time to forgive him". No he didn't come clean he was caught, no he didn't admit his wrong without qualifying the mea culpa, no it's not time to forget about his fraud.

I hate living in a society where the average person is so gullible and indifferent to reason that a guy like ZeeJustin would even conceive of soliciting sympathy from some of the very same people he would still be defrauding if he hadn't been outed.

You one dimensional immediate gratification monkeys so gung ho about "forgiveness" should Google "Michael Milken" sometime. Maybe then you'll understand why even minimally informed people are so disgusted by you. More than likely you won't however.

SretiCentV 06-25-2007 03:11 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
oops

Dids 06-25-2007 03:13 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
Warning.

This thread is NOT going to turn into a ZJ debate. We've had that too many times that it's just boring.

The fact that ZJ did something [censored] doesn't mean that what was done to him today wasn't.

samsdmf 06-25-2007 03:14 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
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Am I the only one who finds it incredible this kid expects a sympathetic audience when he whines about being hustled at the felt?

Another thing I'm really tired of are these ignorant tards (in this case in the Full Contact Forum) who keep trying to polish Justin's image with repeated banalities to the effect of "he came clean and admitted his wrong, it's time to forgive him". No he didn't come clean he was caught, no he didn't admit his wrong without qualifying the mea culpa, no it's not time to forget about his fraud.

I hate living in a society where the average person is so gullible and indifferent to reason that a guy like ZeeJustin would even conceive of soliciting sympathy from some of the very same people he would still be defrauding if he hadn't been outed.

You one dimensional immediate gratification monkeys so gung ho about "forgiveness" should Google "Michael Milken" sometime. Maybe then you'll understand why even minimally informed people are so disgusted by you. More than likely you won't however.

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Sure you have never ever made a mistake in your life, ever
What an awesome guy you must be

EDIT: What dids said

SretiCentV 06-25-2007 03:14 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
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anybody wanna post the text for those of us at work? thanks

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Don't do this. I will ban you. Ready sticky.

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post6260120

I don't see it in that sticky.

prohornblower 06-25-2007 03:16 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
This is pretty messed up for Justin. I was talking to mehsab IRL and he was at the table and confirmed the shooting.

samsdmf 06-25-2007 03:17 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
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anybody wanna post the text for those of us at work? thanks

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Don't do this. I will ban you. Ready sticky.

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post6260120

I don't see it in that sticky.

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I think it might be in the forum TOC, not sure though

Dids 06-25-2007 03:18 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
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anybody wanna post the text for those of us at work? thanks

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Don't do this. I will ban you. Ready sticky.

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post6260120

I don't see it in that sticky.

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WTF. Stupid sticky. Edited.

SretiCentV 06-25-2007 03:36 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
Do I get a custom title? Perhaps something along the lines of "Hero Patriot American" would be appropriate?

toutatis70 06-25-2007 03:59 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
So was Robert Williamson really scamming or just did'nt hear zee?

LonesomeFugitive 06-25-2007 04:09 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
My sources tell me ZeeJustin was angleshooting with his protege, Bill "zeejustin" chen.

NoSoup4U 06-25-2007 04:26 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
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So was Robert Williamson really scamming or just did'nt hear zee?

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Not hearing Zee isn't an angle-shoot. Telling the floor that you already exposed your hand when you actually had not *is*. In fact, it is more dishonest than just an angle shoot. The only way that Williamson doesn't have to put chips in the pot is if the action went like this:

1) ZeeJustin doesn't call out "bet"
2) Williamson exposes hand BEFORE
3) Justin now says that he said "bet"

Apparently a number of people at the table agree that #1 is not met -- Justin did say "bet." In my opinion, if the floor believes that he said "bet", Williamson should have to pay regardless of the truth of #2.

Justin alleged that #2 didn't happen until after #3 and further that Williamson lied about the sequence of events to the floor. If that is true, Williamson was seriously out of line.

If Williamson didn't lie about #2, then he isn't really shooting an angle so much as just got a lucky floor ruling. It could be that Justin said #3 at about the same time as Williamson rolled his cards and then it isn't a lie, but just a debate about the facts. If Williamson lied about #2, he's a jerk.

Based on Daniel's comment, it looks like the first floor ruled in Justin's favor and the second floor ruled the other way. Welcome to live poker.

Ibanez8185 06-25-2007 04:36 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
In other news, whats up with his blog saying Team Bodog?

Equal 06-25-2007 04:51 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
Poker needs to clean up it's act.

JCCARL 06-25-2007 05:20 PM

Re: if RW III was guilty ....
 
he could go into long diatribe about how most players angle shoot and that he is being unfairly singled out by Harrah's, and encourage a boycott of the rest of WSOP.

To make amends RW III could donate part of his future winnings like Barry G because let's face it Robert Williamson original and Robert Williamson II were great people, obv.

Seriously though, i guess Zee felt strongly enough to write about an angle shoot. Perhaps he might begin to understand ... oh maybe not.

THAY3R 06-25-2007 05:21 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
So if I'm last to act and it's on someone else I can just show my hand and not have to call a bet?

NU Star 06-25-2007 05:24 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
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So if I'm last to act and it's on someone else I can just show my hand and not have to call a bet?

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Quickly say check too. Then you're good.

BigSoonerFan 06-25-2007 06:05 PM

Re: ZeeJustin claims Angleshooting by known pro in 50K Horse
 
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So if I'm last to act and it's on someone else I can just show my hand and not have to call a bet?

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Quickly say check too. Then you're good.

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And it helps to periodically slip the floorman a hundred (or more depending on the situation).


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