me vs dealer at wynn
 

so this week i come into room and get listed for the 30 game. they are running a 15/30 must move so i decide to sit and wait. i buy a rack and as i approach seat i notice its about to be my BB. dealer asks if i want it and i say yeah and grab 3 chips out my rack and place em. so i carry this messenger type bag that carries my ipod, notebook, chloroform and gum etc...anyways as the dealer starts dealing my hand i notice he deals my first card in front of my three chips (i am in like 5 seat) which i despise anyways but im like whatever and grab my ipod from bag and proceed to sit down. i then hang my bag on the chair (for some reason looking away from table for a moment..perhaps saying hi to regular) and sit down only to see i dont have any cards anymore (i didnt see him muck them or i would have stopped him). (only UTG had acted to this point) im like "dude where are my cards" hes like "you need to protect them, i mucked them". i say "are you an idiot? why would you muck my hand after one person has acted?" hes like "protect your hand rule #1" im like "i understand, why act like an idiot and not just push my cards behind my 3 chips" he says "protect your hand sir, its your fault". im like "well action goes from left to right, why would you even reach for my cards?" "protect your hand sir"

so i call the floor because well they love me there and i was about to break this guys face. plus the doucheclump next to me with aviators on is saying i am wrong. the floor doesnt really issue a 'ruling' but instead go to the cage and grab 3 chips for me and continue the hand. must be some petty cash thing.

anyways i am telling beau this last night (awesome dealer) and hes like well he didn't break any rules, but yeah whoever the dealer was acted in a very awful manner.

thoughts?

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If you are gone from the table during the dealing of a hand, most casinos make it a policy to fold the player out automatically. Did you leave your seat? I suggest putting a chip on the cards. The dealer should have been nicer.

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Wynn has a couple dealers like that. Luckily they also have a decent floor.

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people who think the dealer is right are complete douches. You just got to the table, you are in the process of sitting down, surely he should be able to see that since he just asked if you want to take your blind. I think I would go crazy in this situation.

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If you are gone from the table during the dealing of a hand, most casinos make it a policy to fold the player out automatically. Did you leave your seat? I suggest putting a chip on the cards. The dealer should have been nicer.

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did you read what i wrote?

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Exactly, you were clearly getting sorted and it wasn't at all your turn to act. The dealer sounds like a total jackass who likes his authority position and lets it cloud his common sense. Stiffing him about 1500 times should do the trick - something to jot down in that notebook.

Jeff

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It's one thing to require a player to protect their hand. It's another thing for a dealer to use that as an excuse for poor customer service.

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One nice thing for you is that you will never have to tip that dealer again.

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Very few things upset me when I'm playing cards, but this would definitely do it. It sounds like it was completely obvious that you were getting settled and hadn't even touched your cards yet. I'm not sure if the dealer made a mistake and tried to cover with the “protect your hand” line, or if he was just being an ass.

I've seen peoples hands get killed when they hadn't looked yet, but the action is almost always actually on the person when the hand gets scooped up. Of course in these cases the person is eating, talking to someone behind them, or otherwise distracted, and the dealer is assuming they already looked and are just passing. Mucking the BB before the action has passed UTG is ridiculous.

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I'm the local "don't blame the dealer" poster around here...

...but even I can't defend the dealer for this one.

My only guess is that he's had to endure your "Are you an idiot?" rants in the past, and is now exacting a small amount of revenge.

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That's funny, be willing to list which dealer it was? I'd put my money on Gates, but who knows. Def just skip the tip for awhile. ALso Beau might be about the best dealer they have at the Wynn.

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I agree - sounds like the dealer had a bone to pick with you, or maybe he was just having a bad day.

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This story seems hard to believe, but if it's true I'm tending to agree with the other poster who said this dealer is probably getting even for something this player has done in the past. No offense but the tone of his post makes it sound like he could be a "problem player."

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Maybe he is a problem player, but the dealer was wrong. Most probably the dealer was tired and it was a brain fart. We all make mistakes.

But let me be clear, if OP is a problem player and the dealer went out of his way to jerk him around, well, if I were at the table and saw it, I wouldn't ever tip that dealer again even though it didn't involve me.

Because you don't steal from a problem player no matter how bad he is.

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"i then hang my bag on the chair (for some reason looking away from table for a moment..perhaps saying hi to regular) and sit down only to see i dont have any cards anymore (i didnt see him muck them or i would have stopped him)."

I read what you wrote. Usually when i say i hi to someone not at the poker table and have a few words with them, I move away from my seat. Like if I saw a friend at the rail smoking. I know you feel victimized. I didnt see what happened and was trying to more fully understand the scenario. Clearly you feel the dealer took your cards inappropriately, I am sorry this happened to you.

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I'm the local "don't blame the dealer" poster around here...

...but even I can't defend the dealer for this one.

My only guess is that he's had to endure your "Are you an idiot?" rants in the past, and is now exacting a small amount of revenge.

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YTF-

i am beyond respectful of dealers. i always tip, even if they suck. don't berate them for mistakes (even if they are often) don't curse them when a bad card hits. dont yak in their ear that a seat is open etc etc etc

that being said, i kind of dont have that filter between what i think and what i say. so asking if the guy was an idiot was reactionary but i also dont regret it.

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This story seems hard to believe, but if it's true I'm tending to agree with the other poster who said this dealer is probably getting even for something this player has done in the past. No offense but the tone of his post makes it sound like he could be a "problem player."

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lol

i would love for anybody who has played with me for any amount of time to chime in here. i am the antithesis of a problem player, always difussing situations between players/dealers/floor etc...i have that type of personality.

furthermore, i don't think this guy has ever dealt to me upstairs as i dont recall seeing him before.

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That's funny, be willing to list which dealer it was? I'd put my money on Gates, but who knows. Def just skip the tip for awhile. ALso Beau might be about the best dealer they have at the Wynn.

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dont remember the name exactly but i want to say it was david. kind of tan skin tone, mid 30's with possible scar on his face. looks like native American descent perhaps.

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That's funny, be willing to list which dealer it was? I'd put my money on Gates, but who knows. Def just skip the tip for awhile. ALso Beau might be about the best dealer they have at the Wynn.

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dont remember the name exactly but i want to say it was david. kind of tan skin tone, mid 30's with possible scar on his face. looks like native American descent perhaps.

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Thats out of character for him. And of course you were 100% correct, your only error was not stopping the game before there was significant action so the floor could rule.

PS; your filter comment is the best description of you I have seen so far, spot on mate!

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Exactly what I have come to expect from about half of the wynn dealers, "I'm a bigshot jerkoff wynn dealer, therefore I can not only deal like a friggin' schmuck, but I can act like a jerk too, and you can't do squat about it because there's probably a floor who also thinks their chit don't stink either who will support my idiocy."

This dealer is a friggin' jerk. I would have pushed your cards behind your big blind, which is the correct thing to do.

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...that being said, i kind of dont have that filter between what i think and what i say.

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So which one is it? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Sorry, I'm not trying to pester. But you took the time to respond to my post, and your response contradicts itself. Care to take another swing at it?

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...that being said, i kind of dont have that filter between what i think and what i say.

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So which one is it? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Sorry, I'm not trying to pester. But you took the time to respond to my post, and your response contradicts itself. Care to take another swing at it?

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doesn't seem contradictory really. it takes a lot for me to think a dealer is acting like an idiot, so i rarely if ever would say so. i also dont just randomly blurt out what i am thinking, however if i am arguing/talking about a subject what i REALLY think will be said.

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no tips for the dealer for a long long time. A wynn regular I know regularly doesn't tip a few of the crappy dealers, and tips $2 to the same number of good ones. Same money you're spending on tips but it's more properly allocated. I think I'm going to try to adopt this policy.

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Hey Mike,


If his actions annoyed you that much write a letter to everyone at the Wynn. Get his name and employee id number and write a letter a week. If that doesnt go anywhere after a month, write a letter every other day.

If I interpreted your story correctly, it sounds like this dealer was on a 70's power trip and you did nothing wrong.

This also sounds very out of character for you.

Never did this dealer again...EVER

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I'm the local "don't blame the dealer" poster around here...

...but even I can't defend the dealer for this one.

My only guess is that he's had to endure your "Are you an idiot?" rants in the past, and is now exacting a small amount of revenge.

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The thing is that seems to think that the dealer saw the cards and said to himself gee the player isn't in his seat protecting his cards I think I'll muck them. When in actuallity what probably happened was dealer finished dealing caught a glimpse of lose cards out where players muck them and did what dealers naturally do when they see cards out there -- he swept them into the muck as soon as possible. I really doubt that it was anything other than a natural reaction. I don't like the dealers response here, it seems like it was the dealers fault and the dealer ought to be apologizing(of course its hard to apologize if OP immiedately starts calling dealer an idiot)

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Not suggesting you did anything wrong, but why not just slide the card behind your chips as it's being dealt?

FWIW, I had a similar incident in the BB in a 5-5NL game. I stand up at the table to put on a sweatshirt on while she's shuffling, then back sit down and reach for my hand. I have one card, the action's on and my hand is now dead.

I ask what happened and hear the same thing. I get aggravated and ask "it's my fault for trusting you too properly deal me 2 cards in the BB"? I said it's arrogant and disrespectful to suggest that.

I could care less about the $5. Just say you're sorry and we move on. I'm no dealer hater, but some of them would never, ever admit they're wrong.

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100% this was a dealer named Randy. he's a past-his-prime pretty-boy and a total A-hole... I got him "dismissed" for the evening one-time because he told me and two of my friends:

"haven't you found somewhere else to play yet?"

I wnt balistic.

BTW... regarding your issue, I've never seen any dealer not protect the BB's hand.

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so this week i come into room and get listed for the 30 game. they are running a 15/30 must move so i decide to sit and wait. i buy a rack and as i approach seat i notice its about to be my BB. dealer asks if i want it and i say yeah and grab 3 chips out my rack and place em. so i carry this messenger type bag that carries my ipod, notebook, chloroform and gum etc...anyways as the dealer starts dealing my hand i notice he deals my first card in front of my three chips (i am in like 5 seat) which i despise anyways but im like whatever and grab my ipod from bag and proceed to sit down. i then hang my bag on the chair (for some reason looking away from table for a moment..perhaps saying hi to regular) and sit down only to see i dont have any cards anymore (i didnt see him muck them or i would have stopped him). (only UTG had acted to this point) im like "dude where are my cards" hes like "you need to protect them, i mucked them". i say "are you an idiot? why would you muck my hand after one person has acted?" hes like "protect your hand rule #1" im like "i understand, why act like an idiot and not just push my cards behind my 3 chips" he says "protect your hand sir, its your fault". im like "well action goes from left to right, why would you even reach for my cards?" "protect your hand sir"

so i call the floor because well they love me there and i was about to break this guys face. plus the doucheclump next to me with aviators on is saying i am wrong. the floor doesnt really issue a 'ruling' but instead go to the cage and grab 3 chips for me and continue the hand. must be some petty cash thing.

anyways i am telling beau this last night (awesome dealer) and hes like well he didn't break any rules, but yeah whoever the dealer was acted in a very awful manner.

thoughts?

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I want to make sure I get this. You sit down to play, post your big blind, get dealt in, and do not watch your cards........is that correct??????

The dealer wants to move the game along, WHICH IS HIS REAL JOB, you are not paying attention, and he is supposed to hold up the game for you????

Sounds to me like you were not ready to play when it was your turn, you cards were just laying there, and the dealer killed them.

I bet you began to start paying attention after that, didn't you?

Typical from the LV player - take no responsibility for your own hand.

"Anyways as the dealer starts dealing my hand i notice he deals my first card in front of my three chips"

This is the best - in other words, you are too lazy to PULL THE CARD BEHIND THE BLIND YOURSELF TO PROTECT YOUR OWN HAND!!!!!!


Seems to me you got what you deserved, and you better protect your hand when you play cards.

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so this week i come into room and get listed for the 30 game. they are running a 15/30 must move so i decide to sit and wait. i buy a rack and as i approach seat i notice its about to be my BB. dealer asks if i want it and i say yeah and grab 3 chips out my rack and place em. so i carry this messenger type bag that carries my ipod, notebook, chloroform and gum etc...anyways as the dealer starts dealing my hand i notice he deals my first card in front of my three chips (i am in like 5 seat) which i despise anyways but im like whatever and grab my ipod from bag and proceed to sit down. i then hang my bag on the chair (for some reason looking away from table for a moment..perhaps saying hi to regular) and sit down only to see i dont have any cards anymore (i didnt see him muck them or i would have stopped him). (only UTG had acted to this point) im like "dude where are my cards" hes like "you need to protect them, i mucked them". i say "are you an idiot? why would you muck my hand after one person has acted?" hes like "protect your hand rule #1" im like "i understand, why act like an idiot and not just push my cards behind my 3 chips" he says "protect your hand sir, its your fault". im like "well action goes from left to right, why would you even reach for my cards?" "protect your hand sir"

so i call the floor because well they love me there and i was about to break this guys face. plus the doucheclump next to me with aviators on is saying i am wrong. the floor doesnt really issue a 'ruling' but instead go to the cage and grab 3 chips for me and continue the hand. must be some petty cash thing.

anyways i am telling beau this last night (awesome dealer) and hes like well he didn't break any rules, but yeah whoever the dealer was acted in a very awful manner.

thoughts?

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I want to make sure I get this. You sit down to play, post your big blind, get dealt in, and do not watch your cards........is that correct??????

The dealer wants to move the game along, WHICH IS HIS REAL JOB, you are not paying attention, and he is supposed to hold up the game for you????

Sounds to me like you were not ready to play when it was your turn, you cards were just laying there, and the dealer killed them.

I bet you began to start paying attention after that, didn't you?

Typical from the LV player - take no responsibility for your own hand.

"Anyways as the dealer starts dealing my hand i notice he deals my first card in front of my three chips"

This is the best - in other words, you are too lazy to PULL THE CARD BEHIND THE BLIND YOURSELF TO PROTECT YOUR OWN HAND!!!!!!


Seems to me you got what you deserved, and you better protect your hand when you play cards.

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You couldnt be more wrong. It was his first hand and the action was not yet on him. If the dealer cant remember that the guy just posted not moments before then how is he competent enough to run a poker game. This is disgusting and If I were OP I would never go to the Wynn again unless they fired this A-hole. My favorite is the Vegas nit at the table who chimes in. I woulda lost it.

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Okay, first off, this was highly inappropriate of the dealer, but I can think of any number of mildly valid excuses to at least make it not so shocking.

However... most people, when they relate stories, put themselves in a good light. It's not that they intentionally bias, it's just that they see things in a way that put them as the Good Guy. Reading your post, there are all sorts of flags that you could possibly have some douche-like tendencies. So if I apply the idea of the filter, I wonder what other interpretations of the same little details would offer.

I'm not defending the dealer, because even an overflowing douche shouldn't get his cards mucked when he's arriving to the table and posting the BB and the action isn't anywhere near him, but I'm just sayin'... maybe you rub people differently than you perceive.

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Okay, first off, this was highly inappropriate of the dealer, but I can think of any number of mildly valid excuses to at least make it not so shocking.

However... most people, when they relate stories, put themselves in a good light. It's not that they intentionally bias, it's just that they see things in a way that put them as the Good Guy. Reading your post, there are all sorts of flags that you could possibly have some douche-like tendencies. So if I apply the idea of the filter, I wonder what other interpretations of the same little details would offer.

I'm not defending the dealer, because even an overflowing douche shouldn't get his cards mucked when he's arriving to the table and posting the BB and the action isn't anywhere near him, but I'm just sayin'... maybe you rub people differently than you perceive.

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I think any-douche like tendencies are a result of having to put up with douchey-dealers who hide behind "protect your hand," bc they are too retarted to follow the action. I to am completely respectul and nice to dealers, but there are always a few (can usually tell right away) that think they know everything and try to use that as a power trip. Occassionally, they [censored] up and pick good players who have a brain to try this [censored] on. I am done putting up with that crap and I can see how OP would see through this charade immediately.

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Typical from the LV player - take no responsibility for your own hand.

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Dealer made a mistake IMO and doesn't want to admit it. It doesn't matter who you are, what you are like, or if the dealer likes you or not. He is a professional and should act like one.

Contrast this story with one that happened to me recently at Commerce 9/18 LHE. I post but don't have my chips yet. When it is my turn to act, I reflexively toss my cards because I don't see my post and yes I am stupid. The dealer mucks the cards because that is what she does reflexively. And then we all realize its a free hand for me. At this point the dealer apologizes to me. Not once. Several times. And I assure her she did nothing wrong, I mucked my own hand by mistake and I say so. After the hand she apologizes to me one last time. I tell her not to worry (and yes I would have won the hand).

BTW, great spot for the chloroform.

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I really doubt that it was anything other than a natural reaction. I don't like the dealers response here, it seems like it was the dealers fault and the dealer ought to be apologizing(of course its hard to apologize if OP immediately starts calling dealer an idiot)

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I agree with you, except the end part - its a service industry, and the honest and integrity of the game have to overrule personal emotions. The dealers mistake was being stubborn, and refusing to take the blame for what was likely a simple mistake.

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so this week i come into room and get listed for the 30 game. they are running a 15/30 must move so i decide to sit and wait. i buy a rack and as i approach seat i notice its about to be my BB. dealer asks if i want it and i say yeah and grab 3 chips out my rack and place em. so i carry this messenger type bag that carries my ipod, notebook, chloroform and gum etc...anyways as the dealer starts dealing my hand i notice he deals my first card in front of my three chips (i am in like 5 seat) which i despise anyways but im like whatever and grab my ipod from bag and proceed to sit down. i then hang my bag on the chair (for some reason looking away from table for a moment..perhaps saying hi to regular) and sit down only to see i dont have any cards anymore (i didnt see him muck them or i would have stopped him). (only UTG had acted to this point) im like "dude where are my cards" hes like "you need to protect them, i mucked them". i say "are you an idiot? why would you muck my hand after one person has acted?" hes like "protect your hand rule #1" im like "i understand, why act like an idiot and not just push my cards behind my 3 chips" he says "protect your hand sir, its your fault". im like "well action goes from left to right, why would you even reach for my cards?" "protect your hand sir"

so i call the floor because well they love me there and i was about to break this guys face. plus the doucheclump next to me with aviators on is saying i am wrong. the floor doesnt really issue a 'ruling' but instead go to the cage and grab 3 chips for me and continue the hand. must be some petty cash thing.

anyways i am telling beau this last night (awesome dealer) and hes like well he didn't break any rules, but yeah whoever the dealer was acted in a very awful manner.

thoughts?

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I want to make sure I get this. You sit down to play, post your big blind, get dealt in, and do not watch your cards........is that correct??????

The dealer wants to move the game along, WHICH IS HIS REAL JOB, you are not paying attention, and he is supposed to hold up the game for you????

Sounds to me like you were not ready to play when it was your turn, you cards were just laying there, and the dealer killed them.

I bet you began to start paying attention after that, didn't you?

Typical from the LV player - take no responsibility for your own hand.

"Anyways as the dealer starts dealing my hand i notice he deals my first card in front of my three chips"

This is the best - in other words, you are too lazy to PULL THE CARD BEHIND THE BLIND YOURSELF TO PROTECT YOUR OWN HAND!!!!!!


Seems to me you got what you deserved, and you better protect your hand when you play cards.

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Did you even read the OP before you went on your rant? OP isn't angry because the dealer didn't hold up the game for him. OP is angry because dealer mucked his hand before action was even on him. I'm sure the OP would be less angry about the situation if action was on him and he had his hand mucked for not being at his seat. But action wasn't even close to being on him.

Basically, dealer asks if he wants to post, deals him the cards and then pretty much mucks them immediately, even if OP's supposed to be last to act and the first person had barely acted.

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so this week i come into room and get listed for the 30 game. they are running a 15/30 must move so i decide to sit and wait. i buy a rack and as i approach seat i notice its about to be my BB. dealer asks if i want it and i say yeah and grab 3 chips out my rack and place em. so i carry this messenger type bag that carries my ipod, notebook, chloroform and gum etc...anyways as the dealer starts dealing my hand i notice he deals my first card in front of my three chips (i am in like 5 seat) which i despise anyways but im like whatever and grab my ipod from bag and proceed to sit down. i then hang my bag on the chair (for some reason looking away from table for a moment..perhaps saying hi to regular) and sit down only to see i dont have any cards anymore (i didnt see him muck them or i would have stopped him). (only UTG had acted to this point) im like "dude where are my cards" hes like "you need to protect them, i mucked them". i say "are you an idiot? why would you muck my hand after one person has acted?" hes like "protect your hand rule #1" im like "i understand, why act like an idiot and not just push my cards behind my 3 chips" he says "protect your hand sir, its your fault". im like "well action goes from left to right, why would you even reach for my cards?" "protect your hand sir"

so i call the floor because well they love me there and i was about to break this guys face. plus the doucheclump next to me with aviators on is saying i am wrong. the floor doesnt really issue a 'ruling' but instead go to the cage and grab 3 chips for me and continue the hand. must be some petty cash thing.

anyways i am telling beau this last night (awesome dealer) and hes like well he didn't break any rules, but yeah whoever the dealer was acted in a very awful manner.

thoughts?

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I want to make sure I get this. You sit down to play, post your big blind, get dealt in, and do not watch your cards........is that correct??????

The dealer wants to move the game along, WHICH IS HIS REAL JOB, you are not paying attention, and he is supposed to hold up the game for you????

Sounds to me like you were not ready to play when it was your turn, you cards were just laying there, and the dealer killed them.

I bet you began to start paying attention after that, didn't you?

Typical from the LV player - take no responsibility for your own hand.

"Anyways as the dealer starts dealing my hand i notice he deals my first card in front of my three chips"

This is the best - in other words, you are too lazy to PULL THE CARD BEHIND THE BLIND YOURSELF TO PROTECT YOUR OWN HAND!!!!!!


Seems to me you got what you deserved, and you better protect your hand when you play cards.

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you're a moron.

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Dealers do/should have an extra responsobility of protecting the BB.

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BTW, great spot for the chloroform.

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Just curious, was the OP kidding when he metioned Chloroform? What possible use could you have for it?

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The only possible thing that should have allowed dealer to muck OP's cards is if someone else mucked their cards into OP's. OP should have protected his cards against that.

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The only possible thing that should have allowed dealer to muck OP's cards is if someone else mucked their cards into OP's. OP should have protected his cards against that.

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If the dealer had dealt the cards where he is supposed to, there is no problem. How does a professional dealer put the cards for Seat 5 in front of the player's BB chips?