400nl: bluff turns into trips
 

Villain new to table, no read

SB: $698.20
Hero (BB): $400.00
UTG: $312.70
MP: $720.20
CO: $153.80
BTN: $452.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $16.00</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $12.00

Flop: ($34) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $16.00</font>, Hero calls $16.00

Turn: ($66) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $40.00</font>, BTN calls $40.00

River: ($146) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $140.00</font>

Comments on all streets appreciated.

Re: 400nl: bluff turns into trips
 

I like it, but your strong River bet looks like the flush - so he will not call this. I would bet 80-100 and hope for a call.

Re: 400nl: bluff turns into trips
 

I'm raising the flop to drive out missed overcards. If he calls he's probably on a flush draw or has a bigger hand in which case I'm likely checking the turn.

As played on the river, you haven't caught up to a flush or a set but will probably get a call from top pair or an overpair.

Re: 400nl: bluff turns into trips
 

i think this is ok, but ur riverbet is too big, as herbstl said.

Re: 400nl: bluff turns into trips
 

Little less on riv or you'll fold out everything you get action from. BTW, I don't like preflop. I'd bet $90 on the river and fold to raise, but I might actually like c/r the river for value because he will bluff off a draw, and there r tons more overs+draws and combo draws combinations than there r Jx and A9 with As, so I might consider checking this river to let him bluff off. Ur riv bet is too big IMO for Jx or 9x to call a lot of the time.

Re: 400nl: bluff turns into trips
 

Your hand really looks like a flush, he won't call with a worse hand. Make a smaller bet and he might call with a J.

Re: 400nl: bluff turns into trips
 

Btn shoves

Re: 400nl: bluff turns into trips
 

rivers good flop is marginl turn suckys

Re: 400nl: bluff turns into trips
 

So you folks think a flop c/r is better than a call?

I agree the river could be a little less, but I figured since he called my turn bet pretty quick that he'd call my river bet if he had Jx+ too.

Re: 400nl: bluff turns into trips
 

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So you folks think a flop c/r is better than a call?

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I usually fold, sometimes raise. You know the routine.

Re: 400nl: bluff turns into trips
 

Am i the only one that really dont like the flop and turn play?

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Am i the only one that really dont like the flop and turn play?

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Personally I hate c/r-ing the flop with a hand like that against an unknown on a drawy board. It's not like you can read anything much into his bet size. I'd either fold or call for me, but I'd throw in a c/r sometimes if it seemed OK against someone I knew something about. On the other hand, if you are German then this is a 100% c/r, obviously.

Having called then leading the turn isn't terrible if you reckon on making a decent decision on the river (so often I feel like you have to fire again on the river a lot as you get called on the turn by lots of marginal hands that have a spade, or it takes two bets to make someone believe you have something etc).

As others have said, the river bet looks a bit big.

Re: 400nl: bluff turns into trips
 

i think the turn is pretty bad. i might bet like 110 on the river, but whatever size fits into your usual game is fine.

pf is marginal, but given that i think c/c is ok on flop.

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rivers good flop is marginl turn suckys

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I agree with this

Flop: problem is that you're giving villain more information than you're getting

Turn: I'd c/r or c/f. What's the point of a lead?

As played, I like river