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technologic 06-19-2007 12:10 AM

help me remember how to play poker
 
3/6 NL 6 max

villain raises UTG to 18, CO and button call, hero makes it 90 straight with KK in the SB, UTG calls, CO and button fold.

flop JQQ rainbow.
hero...?

Isura 06-19-2007 12:14 AM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
Find a way to get all the monies in. Bet and call all-in is probably standard.

ArturiusX 06-19-2007 12:21 AM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
stacks are very important

willw9 06-19-2007 12:32 AM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
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stacks are very important

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Also, just watched the 2006 FT againt teh other day. You're a huuge baller.

technologic 06-19-2007 12:35 AM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
approx 100 bb stacks

isura,

isn't this a terrible board to bet and call all in on? we're behind AA/QQ/JJ/AQ and only ahead of a crazy person who shoves AJ/AK/KT/T9s

Isura 06-19-2007 01:20 AM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
TT,99,88, 77, etc too. You have a good pair in a big pot, get money in.

BDaws 06-19-2007 02:04 AM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
Maybe NL600 is considerably more aggressive than I realize, but I'm guessing TT-77 are just folding this flop to a bet. It isn't really a squeeze situation in which UTG expects Hero to be light, is it?

SEABEAST 06-19-2007 02:48 AM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
i instacheck flop and pilot to showdown, as cheaply as possible but never folding

Moonshine 06-19-2007 06:39 AM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
oh god bet/call all in is probably the worst line

i def check flop

donkmagic 06-19-2007 06:53 AM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
bet / call is definitely the worst line ever.

MATT111 06-19-2007 06:56 AM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
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TT,99,88, 77, etc too. You have a good pair in a big pot, get money in.

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Huh? How is he calling with those hands pf?

1o BoY 06-19-2007 07:52 AM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
check/call then reavalueate turn

KdB 06-19-2007 09:30 AM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
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check/call then reavalueate turn

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technologic 06-21-2007 01:32 PM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
hero checks, villain checks

turn 8h putting two hearts up

move?

wdead 06-21-2007 01:39 PM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
since u checked flop i would check turn again and let him take you of AK.

jsnipes28 06-21-2007 01:47 PM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
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TT,99,88, 77, etc too. You have a good pair in a big pot, get money in.

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Huh? How is he calling with those hands pf?

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is this a joke?

after checking flop definitely check turn as well.

iOverlimpReraise 06-21-2007 01:50 PM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
if i check flop my default is to check turn, unless i expect a turn bet to now induce a bluff shove or something

bennies 06-21-2007 02:04 PM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
First I thought bet/fold flop - I think it's rare villain raises a worse hand, AJ, for example, is probably not in his range.

But, depending on the opponents agressiveness, check-calling all streets might be a better route.

wpr101 06-21-2007 05:35 PM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
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hero checks, villain checks

turn 8h putting two hearts up

move?

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Check again. Let him take a stab if he wants.

Isura 06-21-2007 05:44 PM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
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hero checks, villain checks

turn 8h putting two hearts up

move?

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Check again. Let him take a stab if he wants.

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Do we bet river if its checked again? I feel that it gives mid pairs and Jx a cheap way to stay in the hand. We would bet this flop with air, or maybe sometimes take a stab on the turn. But how often does it go check/check and he pays us on the river? It seems we are hardly ever bluffing in that spot. He also pretty much never bluffs when the first 2 streets are checked down.

jlocdog 06-21-2007 06:21 PM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
Isura,

The difference in this hand is that we DONT have air.

Sometimes you have a hand that is just impossible to extract money from. Stop looking for value in bets made but rather understand that the value lies in picking off a frisky AK or random TT type hand.

king_of_drafts 06-21-2007 07:45 PM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
checkkkkk

technologic 06-21-2007 07:53 PM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
hero deliberates, then checks again. villain now checks.

river is a Th
hero curses riverstars, then...

jfish 06-21-2007 08:14 PM

Re: help me remember how to play poker
 
c/f more like jokerstars.


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