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cowpig 06-18-2007 05:44 PM

Biggest pot of my life
 
I'm in the process of moving up to 3/6, and I was doing pretty well at a table, and 200bbs deep. Following hand comes along:

PokerStars Game #10500851791: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/06/18 - 17:09:55 (ET)
Table 'Pandarus V' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: PutzRabbit33 ($1596.05 in chips)
Seat 2: jason4nic ($142.70 in chips)
Seat 3: lobojiji ($120 in chips)
Seat 4: Poly_Baller ($659 in chips)
Seat 5: Genius314 ($1842.90 in chips)
Seat 6: acidca ($1218.80 in chips)
PutzRabbit33: posts small blind $3
jason4nic: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to acidca [Ah Ad]
lobojiji: folds
Poly_Baller: folds
Genius314: folds
acidca: raises $15 to $21
PutzRabbit33: raises $99 to $120

This guy has ultra-nitty stats, so when he 3-bets so hard I know he's got the goods for sure, and wants to play a big pot with me. Niiiice.


jason4nic: folds
acidca: raises $228 to $348
PutzRabbit33: calls $228
*** FLOP *** [7d 8h 2d]
PutzRabbit33: checks

Alright, I guess there's some chance that, because of my sick-LAG image he decided to call my 4-bet with AK or something? Is that possible? If it is, should I bet small so that there's a chance he'll shove over me? Or should I just shove. I'm thinking that--

acidca has timed out
acidca: folds
acidca is sitting out
acidca has returned
PutzRabbit33 collected $699 from pot
PutzRabbit33: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $702 | Rake $3
Board [7d 8h 2d]
Seat 1: PutzRabbit33 (small blind) collected ($699)
Seat 2: jason4nic (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: lobojiji folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Poly_Baller folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Genius314 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: acidca (button) folded on the Flop

SHIPPPPP ITTTTTT

jumbojacks 06-18-2007 05:47 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
I'm pretty sure buying a second internet connection + load balancing router costs less than $1200 over the course of a year. Sucks for this to happen.

kylephilly 06-18-2007 05:48 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
He had 88 good fold comcast

cowpig 06-18-2007 05:49 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
Just sent the following email to pokerstars:

PokerStars Game #10500851791: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/06/18 - 17:09:55 (ET)
Table 'Pandarus V' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: PutzRabbit33 ($1596.05 in chips)
Seat 2: jason4nic ($142.70 in chips)
Seat 3: lobojiji ($120 in chips)
Seat 4: Poly_Baller ($659 in chips)
Seat 5: Genius314 ($1842.90 in chips)
Seat 6: acidca ($1218.80 in chips)
PutzRabbit33: posts small blind $3
jason4nic: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to acidca [Ah Ad]
lobojiji: folds
Poly_Baller: folds
Genius314: folds
acidca: raises $15 to $21
PutzRabbit33: raises $99 to $120
jason4nic: folds
acidca: raises $228 to $348
PutzRabbit33: calls $228
*** FLOP *** [7d 8h 2d]
PutzRabbit33: checks
acidca has timed out
acidca: folds
acidca is sitting out
acidca has returned
PutzRabbit33 collected $699 from pot
PutzRabbit33: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $702 | Rake $3
Board [7d 8h 2d]
Seat 1: PutzRabbit33 (small blind) collected ($699)
Seat 2: jason4nic (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: lobojiji folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Poly_Baller folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Genius314 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: acidca (button) folded on the Flop


The warning that my time bank was going to be activated or whatever didn't even comeback. If I am not compensated for this hand I am going to take my business elsewhere. I've sent angry emails about this before, and it is beyond ridiculous that in a $700 pot where I am almost guaranteed to win another $870 that my hand would just be folded suddenly, without warning.

I am 100% serious about taking my business to full tilt instead. Keep in mind I've paid over $6,000 in rake this month alone.

I can say with near certainty that PutzRabbit either had AA or KK there, and my equity vs those hands after we get all-in on the flop is as follows:

Board: 2d 7d 8h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 13.658% 06.84% 06.82% 474 472.50 { KK+ }
Hand 1: 86.342% 79.52% 06.82% 5511 472.50 { AdAh }

86.342% of $2440.60, or $2107.26.

And yes, that is approximately a sixth of my current bankroll, and a significant % of my net worth, so it is a pretty big [censored] deal.

I'm not bluffing. If they tell me there's "nothing they can do" I'm moving my roll to FTP

cowpig 06-18-2007 05:50 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'm pretty sure buying a second internet connection + load balancing router costs less than $1200 over the course of a year. Sucks for this to happen.

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My internet connection didn't go out. They just folded my hand because my time bank ran out, and sometimes the time warning just doesn't show up.

4drugmoney 06-18-2007 05:51 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
Yeah they will definetely give you your money back now.

rockrokok 06-18-2007 06:05 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
Keep us posted! Stick it to the man!

Nielsio 06-18-2007 06:08 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
I don't understand. Why did you wait so long to bet?

early325 06-18-2007 06:12 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
[ QUOTE ]
I don't understand. Why did you wait so long to bet?

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Yes this seems like you don't really need to think at all anyways.

Raised2Win 06-18-2007 06:13 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
fast tables dont ask after u have used your timebank

luckyjimm 06-18-2007 06:37 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
He had 72o

Good fold sir!

bulldogs24 06-18-2007 06:38 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
the odds sadly of you getting your money back are as thin as a anorexic chick

pp262 06-18-2007 06:40 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
Bet faster

cts 06-18-2007 06:41 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
obv your own responsibility to learn how to use a computer / secure a connection, if that was why you folded

Spechel EDD 06-18-2007 06:41 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
barf

KentuckyWildcats 06-18-2007 06:48 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
You really think you should get your money back because your time bank ran out and your hand was folded before you could act?

cowpig 06-18-2007 06:58 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
[ QUOTE ]
You really think you should get your money back because your time bank ran out and your hand was folded before you could act?

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1. the warning didn't come up
2. check?
3. I've sent them two emails about this issue before, one about the warning glitching when your time bank is zero (perfect time for there not to be a warning), and another about it open-folding hands instead of checking them.

I guess it's really my responsibility though, I should be keeping a stopwatch by my computer so I can time 15 seconds every time I have an important decision at a fast table

isapistola 06-18-2007 07:05 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
oh buu huu. you lost money because of your own stupidity. MOMMY! I WANTS MY MONIES BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!1111

YOU GOT FOOKEN OWNED BROTHA! WHAT IT DO?"!!"

samsdmf 06-18-2007 07:08 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
[x] Op fails at internets

Mr.JR 06-18-2007 07:17 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
[ QUOTE ]
[x] Op fails at life

[/ QUOTE ]

AJackson 06-18-2007 07:22 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
[ QUOTE ]


And yes, that is approximately a sixth of my current bankroll, and a significant % of my net worth, so it is a pretty big [censored] deal.


[/ QUOTE ]

I'm a huge nit by comparison. I like to have 25 buyins; I couldn't image mu losses in a single pot representing 1/6 my roll.

Stars should probably be smart to reimburse you due to the potential loss in future rake, however I don't think they should feel obligated to do so. You choose to play high speed tables and part of the downside is what happened to you. Don't forget that you benefit from the speed by getting in more hands. Additionally, you'll also benefit from your opponent being folded when the rolls are reversed.

In the long run, when you factor in the extra hands, I bet this feature makes you money. Of course, this is assuming you are a winning player.

Squareview 06-18-2007 07:32 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
take a nap

Kermit 06-18-2007 07:34 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
[ QUOTE ]
another about it open-folding hands instead of checking them.



[/ QUOTE ]


lol...i thought this was happening sometimes.

Alobar 06-18-2007 07:36 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
Dear cowpig,

First we would like to apologize that you suffered what seems like a misfortune while playing at one of our tables. We make it our goal to provide our players with the highest level of satisfaction at our site. Unfortunately tho your fold was not due to a software glitch but your own inability to act in the alloted time. There are only 3 buttons to push and numerous tests were run in a controlled setting using monkeys and it was found that no longer than 15 seconds was needed for the complex decision of which of 3 buttons to push.

We see however that you are indeed a large rake contributor to our site and we would like to make it up to you as per your request and give you the equity of the hand in question. Upon reviewing the action and hole cards of the other player we also agree that this hand was definitely going to showdown in an all in situation. Player 'PutzRabbit33' was dealt the hole cards 8d8s giving him 87.77%(repeating of course) equity.


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 12.223% 12.22% 00.00% 1112887 0.00 { AdAh }
Hand 1: 87.777% 87.78% 00.00% 7991873 0.00 { 8d8s }

We have further deducted $763 dollars from your account and transfered it to player 'PutzRabbit33'. We appreciate your support of pokerstars and wish you continued success at the tables

Thank you,

Tyler
pokerstars support staff

justin 06-18-2007 07:43 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
"listen up! You see this? This... is my boomstick! The 12-gauge double-barreled Remington. S-Mart's top of the line. You can find this in the sporting goods department. That's right, this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Retails for about $109.95. It's got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel, and a hair trigger. That's right. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. You got that. "

fsuplayer 06-18-2007 07:45 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
loll @ alobar's post.

TheOneWizard 06-18-2007 07:52 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
I don't get why it folded you when there wasn't even a bet. At the very least it should have just forced you to check behind rather than folding.

Ji99y 06-18-2007 07:59 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
[ QUOTE ]
Dear cowpig,

First we would like to apologize that you suffered what seems like a misfortune while playing at one of our tables. We make it our goal to provide our players with the highest level of satisfaction at our site. Unfortunately tho your fold was not due to a software glitch but your own inability to act in the alloted time. There are only 3 buttons to push and numerous tests were run in a controlled setting using monkeys and it was found that no longer than 15 seconds was needed for the complex decision of which of 3 buttons to push.

We see however that you are indeed a large rake contributor to our site and we would like to make it up to you as per your request and give you the equity of the hand in question. Upon reviewing the action and hole cards of the other player we also agree that this hand was definitely going to showdown in an all in situation. Player 'PutzRabbit33' was dealt the hole cards 8d8s giving him 87.77%(repeating of course) equity.


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 12.223% 12.22% 00.00% 1112887 0.00 { AdAh }
Hand 1: 87.777% 87.78% 00.00% 7991873 0.00 { 8d8s }

We have further deducted $763 dollars from your account and transfered it to player 'PutzRabbit33'. We appreciate your support of pokerstars and wish you continued success at the tables

Thank you,

Tyler
pokerstars support staff

[/ QUOTE ]

lol, if op really thinks they would refund his money, then they would have to also remove money sometimes. ahahha, sorry op, no chance.

Ihatebrandi 06-18-2007 08:22 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
I had this happen on a limit 3-6 table and they refunded all my money, but that was a couple years ago.

And only like 42 bucks...

aislephive 06-18-2007 09:11 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
[ QUOTE ]
Dear cowpig,

First we would like to apologize that you suffered what seems like a misfortune while playing at one of our tables. We make it our goal to provide our players with the highest level of satisfaction at our site. Unfortunately tho your fold was not due to a software glitch but your own inability to act in the alloted time. There are only 3 buttons to push and numerous tests were run in a controlled setting using monkeys and it was found that no longer than 15 seconds was needed for the complex decision of which of 3 buttons to push.

We see however that you are indeed a large rake contributor to our site and we would like to make it up to you as per your request and give you the equity of the hand in question. Upon reviewing the action and hole cards of the other player we also agree that this hand was definitely going to showdown in an all in situation. Player 'PutzRabbit33' was dealt the hole cards 8d8s giving him 87.77%(repeating of course) equity.


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 12.223% 12.22% 00.00% 1112887 0.00 { AdAh }
Hand 1: 87.777% 87.78% 00.00% 7991873 0.00 { 8d8s }

We have further deducted $763 dollars from your account and transfered it to player 'PutzRabbit33'. We appreciate your support of pokerstars and wish you continued success at the tables

Thank you,

Tyler
pokerstars support staff

[/ QUOTE ]

Fking awesome, nh sir.

FionnMac 06-18-2007 09:18 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
[ QUOTE ]
Dear cowpig,

First we would like to apologize that you suffered what seems like a misfortune while playing at one of our tables. We make it our goal to provide our players with the highest level of satisfaction at our site. Unfortunately tho your fold was not due to a software glitch but your own inability to act in the alloted time. There are only 3 buttons to push and numerous tests were run in a controlled setting using monkeys and it was found that no longer than 15 seconds was needed for the complex decision of which of 3 buttons to push.

We see however that you are indeed a large rake contributor to our site and we would like to make it up to you as per your request and give you the equity of the hand in question. Upon reviewing the action and hole cards of the other player we also agree that this hand was definitely going to showdown in an all in situation. Player 'PutzRabbit33' was dealt the hole cards 8d8s giving him 87.77%(repeating of course) equity.


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 12.223% 12.22% 00.00% 1112887 0.00 { AdAh }
Hand 1: 87.777% 87.78% 00.00% 7991873 0.00 { 8d8s }

We have further deducted $763 dollars from your account and transfered it to player 'PutzRabbit33'. We appreciate your support of pokerstars and wish you continued success at the tables

Thank you,

Tyler
pokerstars support staff

[/ QUOTE ]

brilliant, ty

realjaydub 06-18-2007 09:56 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
The slow tards deserve this.

Are you trying to be tricky waiting so long to act?

LOL

Weever22 06-18-2007 10:51 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
[ QUOTE ]
Dear cowpig,

First we would like to apologize that you suffered what seems like a misfortune while playing at one of our tables. We make it our goal to provide our players with the highest level of satisfaction at our site. Unfortunately tho your fold was not due to a software glitch but your own inability to act in the alloted time. There are only 3 buttons to push and numerous tests were run in a controlled setting using monkeys and it was found that no longer than 15 seconds was needed for the complex decision of which of 3 buttons to push.

We see however that you are indeed a large rake contributor to our site and we would like to make it up to you as per your request and give you the equity of the hand in question. Upon reviewing the action and hole cards of the other player we also agree that this hand was definitely going to showdown in an all in situation. Player 'PutzRabbit33' was dealt the hole cards 8d8s giving him 87.77%(repeating of course) equity.


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 12.223% 12.22% 00.00% 1112887 0.00 { AdAh }
Hand 1: 87.777% 87.78% 00.00% 7991873 0.00 { 8d8s }

We have further deducted $763 dollars from your account and transfered it to player 'PutzRabbit33'. We appreciate your support of pokerstars and wish you continued success at the tables

Thank you,

Tyler
pokerstars support staff

[/ QUOTE ]


hahahah, amazing..

DangerDonkey 06-18-2007 10:59 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
I lost close to a grand over on full tilt one time due to it disconnecting me when I had a boat... I emailed ft and they told me tough ****. So I think you can probably forget about getting your cash back. This happened to me on the river so the hand was over. I had the nuts and they still told me tough luck.

PokerSoccer 06-18-2007 11:57 PM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Dear cowpig,

First we would like to apologize that you suffered what seems like a misfortune while playing at one of our tables. We make it our goal to provide our players with the highest level of satisfaction at our site. Unfortunately tho your fold was not due to a software glitch but your own inability to act in the alloted time. There are only 3 buttons to push and numerous tests were run in a controlled setting using monkeys and it was found that no longer than 15 seconds was needed for the complex decision of which of 3 buttons to push.

We see however that you are indeed a large rake contributor to our site and we would like to make it up to you as per your request and give you the equity of the hand in question. Upon reviewing the action and hole cards of the other player we also agree that this hand was definitely going to showdown in an all in situation. Player 'PutzRabbit33' was dealt the hole cards 8d8s giving him 87.77%(repeating of course) equity.


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 12.223% 12.22% 00.00% 1112887 0.00 { AdAh }
Hand 1: 87.777% 87.78% 00.00% 7991873 0.00 { 8d8s }

We have further deducted $763 dollars from your account and transfered it to player 'PutzRabbit33'. We appreciate your support of pokerstars and wish you continued success at the tables

Thank you,

Tyler
pokerstars support staff

[/ QUOTE ]

Fking awesome, nh sir.

[/ QUOTE ]

VickreyAuction 06-19-2007 12:12 AM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
(repeating of course)

farmslicer7 06-19-2007 12:54 AM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
awesome

vin17 06-19-2007 12:59 AM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
[ QUOTE ]
(repeating of course)

[/ QUOTE ]

At least I have chicken.

TheWorstPlayer 06-19-2007 12:59 AM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
I would bet there instead of folding. But your line is good to mix it up.

ocdscale 06-19-2007 01:01 AM

Re: Biggest pot of my life
 
[ QUOTE ]
I would bet there instead of folding. But your line is good to mix it up.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think the point is that hero folded accidentally.
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