OT: $20 vs $5 and $10 tables
 

I've played quite a few $5 and $10 tables on Stars and I have basically broke even so far. My strategy is pretty standard for playing STT's, so I think the reason I haven't won more is because of the terrible play at this level. The bad beats by hands that shouldn't be played are constant.

Do you think it's the same at the $20 tables or is the play better suited for my style? Is it worth moving to?
Thanks

The reason I haven't moved up yet is because of my roll isn't big enough.

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beat the 5 and 10 dollar ones for a reasonable profit, then move up whne your bankroll dictates it. if the play is really that bad, then you should be able to convincingly beat them, NOT be break even at them. bad beats are called so because they're few in number; over the long run if you're not winning at the stakes you're playing at then it's safe to assume you're no better than the players you're playing against.

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maybe I'm just really unlucky. tried a $20 and had some push with 99 preflop when i had AA. 9 came on the turn.

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If you can't beat the lower games you WILL NOT beat the higher games. You don't have nearly a big enough sample size to judge any of this (clearly by your last post) so just play more $5s and post some hands and see where it goes. Worse players means you will make more $$ not less it is incorrect to think otherwise.

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maybe I'm just really unlucky. tried a $20 and had some push with 99 preflop when i had AA. 9 came on the turn.

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That pretty much nails it down. With an extensive track record like that, it is conclusive that you are never going to beat the $20 game.

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ya same thing happened the next table though...AA got cracked by a set of nines after the flop. seems like it happens too often

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Seems like it happens about 20% of the time. Damn

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just move up to the stake where someone finally respects your raises, then you will be good

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Low stakes STTs are very easy to beat given the bad play. You can literally make money when your opponents make mistakes when your not even in the hand.

Low stakes cash is a little tougher to consistently beat at the lower levels but they are still a goldmine.

My guess is your to tight and get blinded down. sSo when you push AA it will be a correct call by your opponents in certain situations. (You always want them to call you when you have AA anyways) Or, you are too loose and spew chips.

Try to post actual hands so people can try and help you a little better.

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I'm pretty sure you're just suffering from variance. My suggestion would be to play some Turbo 45 man sit-n-gos, preferably omaha if you can find them. This should cut down your variance incredibly.

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OT:99 do beat Aces too often lots of people are saying this.

but to OP keep playing 5s and 10s if you can beat them move up if you can't then keep learning.

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How many is quite a few? If you're new to sngs you're probably at best BE at the $5.50s. The thinking that you should move up where ppl respect your raises is the opposite way to think. As you move up you're not going to see someone 4 bet all in pf with QJs when you have AA at the 10/20 blinds as much, or ppl calling off their whole stack with 2nd pair. You want that to happen, the nature of the beast is if you play bad sng players you'll show down more hands that are big favs and have times where a majority of them lose.

My guess is that your bubble play isn't all that good yet (I'm still working on mine) if you haven't turned a profit given a big enough sample size.

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This reminds me of that dude in last year's USPC that was first to busto b/c he couldn't fold TP2K for like 3/4 his stack on the first level.

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