AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

Villain one is a tagfish. He repops QQ/TT for sure preflop though. Stupid small raise was weird though.

Villain 2 (the coldcaller) is a megadonk something like 36/4 and overvalues hands.

Is this a clear fold? Since villain 2 looked like TOTAL combo draw, and it was a little more than a minraise, I wanted to see a blank turn.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($487)
SB ($203.70)
BB ($211.70)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($259.80)</font>
MP ($483.60)
<font color="#C00000">CO ($190)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, MP calls $8, CO calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($33) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $26</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $60</font>, CO calls $60, BB folds

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

if you said that he rr-es TT/QQ, then you only have to worry about 555 right? i shove.

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

ugh, this spot sucks

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

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if you said that he rr-es TT/QQ, then you only have to worry about 555 right? i shove.

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QT/55, and I'm not exactly destroying combo draws. He also raised me with 2 left to act, after I led into 4 way pot.

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

Bump, cuz this hand gets more intersting [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

who cares just shove

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

I called, turn was a J of diamonds now what?

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

raise flop?

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raise flop?

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Okay I swear next time I'll just shove [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

I'd shove the flop and reload.

The turn spot is just gross. I think I'd just check and fold to a shove. Your plan was to look for a blank turn, it was anything but so just pitch it and move on.

I would like to shove the turn since you have oodles of fold equity against the MP player, but I doubt the CO is going to be sticking around w/ enough stuff that you beat. If the CO is the type of player to felt w/ AQ or something else you beat here then I'd definitely think about shoving.

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

Okay turn checks through. River is 3 diamonds giving me nutflush, NOW WHAT?

Board Td 5 Qd Jd 3d

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

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Okay turn checks through. River is 3 diamonds giving me nutflush, NOW WHAT?

Board Td 5 Qd Jd 3d

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Bet like 70-80. He has to have some hand with showdown value and is checking behind with almost all of them. You could maybe bet small and try to get him to turn a small flush/two pair into a bluff.

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

bet 1/2ish on river. i dislike flatting flop alot.

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

Shove flop, check turn, obv bet river, I want to shove but 1/2 pot probably best

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

Shove or fold flop, flatting is really gay. Why are you soo sure MP doesn't have TT? You think he repops UTG+1 vs your UTG open?

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

I posted this 4 months ago. I'm no longer sure he repots TT preflop and actually doubt it now.

AND YES I UNDERSTAND I SHOULD'VE SHOVED THE [censored] FLOP, BUT I WANTED TO SEE A BLANK TURN SO I COULD SHOVE AND DESTROY A COMBO DRAWS EQUITY CUZ THEY NEVER FOLD EVEN WITH 1 CARD TO COME!

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

i dont think flatting is terrible, you are getting great odds to see the next situation, plus you have a little bit behind. really depends on mps specific tendancies. i mean, if you call and he fires a blank turn you have to fold i think, even though he could be bad enough to still be firing combo draws. the thing that makes this hand close is the donks dead money. If you shove you'll be getting it in really bad with mp, but the donk might pad the pot with QJ. If the donk is reeeaaaallly bad id shove i think. marignal spot whatever you do.

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

shove the flop fish

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

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Bump, cuz this hand gets more intersting

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four months later

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I called, turn was a J of diamonds now what?

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FInally, I have been waiting in anticipation.

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

Fold river. One of them has obv got a straight flush

Re: AA OOP On Drawy Flop 1/2 NL
 

I PUSHED RIVER (LDO) AND MP HAD 89DD FOR A STRAIGHT FRUSH!