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Herrigel 06-13-2007 04:39 PM

Top 2 vs Tard
 
Opponent is like 85/28 after only 30 hands.
Seems to be type of a passive calling station postflop with any pair, haven't seen him raising postflop yet.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($521.50)
Hero ($412.30)
CO ($394)
Button ($479.35)
SB ($474.50)
BB ($406.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $14, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($34) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $72</font>, Hero calls $48.

Turn: ($178) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($178) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $90</font>, Button calls $479.35 (All-In), Hero ?

Turn was a missed cr ai.

lucksack 06-13-2007 04:54 PM

Re: Top 2 vs Tard
 
Ez fold imo.

recallme 06-13-2007 04:54 PM

Re: Top 2 vs Tard
 
I would say hehit his flush here.
A set/2pair would bet turn again.

Herrigel 06-13-2007 05:40 PM

Re: Top 2 vs Tard
 
OK probably not a too interesting spot.

I folded, he showed KTo.

Having the read that I had at that point (calling station), blocking bet is the standard river move right?

Morrek 06-13-2007 06:01 PM

Re: Top 2 vs Tard
 
wtf@ river bet

Jamougha 06-13-2007 06:08 PM

Re: Top 2 vs Tard
 
vs very weak players I like just shoving the flop.

MT A CLIP 06-13-2007 06:14 PM

Re: Top 2 vs Tard
 
if he's a passive calling station why aren't you betting the turn?

Roger Mainfield 06-13-2007 06:57 PM

Re: Top 2 vs Tard
 
Ya I def bet the turn, he could easily have the A of clubs, and being an uber donk would call for sure with a flush draw.

cheet 06-13-2007 07:10 PM

Re: Top 2 vs Tard
 
Seeing that he's a tard I definitely think you should have
rasied back on the flop or pot the turn. River bet is way too small, but I think it's a fold.

allingator 06-13-2007 07:57 PM

Re: Top 2 vs Tard
 
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if he's a passive calling station why aren't you betting the turn?

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Right, should just be value betting him on every street.

hardkAre 06-13-2007 08:13 PM

Re: Top 2 vs Tard
 
Bet more on the flop, like 30 or so. Lead turn.

Wtf is up with the river bet? Bet properly or C/C. I woulda bet 152 or something.

As played, fold to his AI.

yoshi86 06-13-2007 11:49 PM

Re: Top 2 vs Tard
 
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if he's a passive calling station why aren't you betting the turn?

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Passive calling stations don't usually raise the flop with air. OP was probably going for the stackadonk

Herrigel 06-14-2007 03:43 AM

Re: Top 2 vs Tard
 
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if he's a passive calling station why aren't you betting the turn?

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Passive calling stations don't usually raise the flop with air. OP was probably going for the stackadonk

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Yeah, in OP I stated that I missed the CRAI on turn. Thought he is gonna bet his 2 pair again and give him some rope, just in case he is on a bluff.

What is so wrong with the 50% river blocking bet against loose passive players?

I have $326 left on river. For those who advocate a potsized bet, do you fold to a shove?


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