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Bobo Fett 06-13-2007 12:05 PM

Hollywood Poker botched promotion, THEN MAKES GOOD!
 
Hollywood Poker is currently running a promotion on the weekends called "Flush Frenzy". Here is the text from their web site:

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Hollywood Poker's Top Set Pay Day and Quad Aces & Faces promotions run Mondays and Wednesdays and players have been striking it lucky, catching hands and getting richer! Now, Hollywood Poker is adding yet another great promotion to its table game lineup with the addition of Flush Frenzy!. Catch a Flush on the Weekend to win huge at Hollywood Poker's Cash games! Between Saturday at 7am EST and Sunday night at 11.59pm EST, you can win by landing a flush!

Catch an Ace high Flush and you'll win 5x the Big Blind, up to $100!
A Straight Flush will land you 50x the Big Blind, up to a massive $1000!
Get a Royal Flush and you're laughing. It's 150x the Big Blind, up to an unbelievable $5000!
It all starts this weekend! Take a seat in any Hold'Em game, land a flush and reap the reward. It's that simple and it's only at Hollywood Poker!
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Sounds great, doesn't it? You'd think there'd be some kind of hole card requirement, but there is no mention of any such thing anywhere on their website. That seemed odd, so two weeks ago I asked their lobby support specifically about hole card requirements, and was told there weren't any.

So the first weekend I claimed 2 bonuses, and was paid for them without problems. This past weekend I made 3 claims, 1 was paid and 2 were denied. I was told that for the Ace-high flush, you had to have TWO spades in your own hand, AND the Ace had to be one of them. I pointed out to them that they don't mention that anywhere in the email they sent out, nor on their website. They have admitted their error, but steadfastly refuse to pay the $20 I am owed. Instead, they have given me a "a free $10+$1 Michael Woods Celebrity Invitational tournament ticket".

I have all of the emails we have sent back and forth, and would be happy to post them is anybody wants me to, but it will be quite long!

Wasn't there an OnGame ombudsman that was posting here? For the life of me, I can't find any of their posts now.

Lessu 06-13-2007 01:18 PM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
you probably know that the ticked you got was a stalling tactic only. they obviously noticed the ev of the bonus for them and started to try to scam uninformed players. just keep emailing them until you get what you are promised. and shouldn't there be a HWP rep here too? won't probably take long before you get credited when they see this.

Bobo Fett 06-13-2007 01:40 PM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
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you probably know that the ticked you got was a stalling tactic only. they obviously noticed the ev of the bonus for them and started to try to scam uninformed players. just keep emailing them until you get what you are promised. and shouldn't there be a HWP rep here too? won't probably take long before you get credited when they see this.

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Well, I'm at about 5 emails, and getting nowhere. It really couldn't be more clear that I'm in the right, yet they refuse to budge. I'm going to see if I can get this moved up the chain somehow. I've posted this over at BW as well, since they're my affiliate.

If anyone here can point me in the direction of someone a little higher up at Hollywood, or that ombundsman, it would be greatly appreciated.

Antti 06-13-2007 04:05 PM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
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I was told that for the Ace-high flush, you had to have TWO spades in your own hand, AND the Ace had to be one of them.

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Does that mean that they are only paying out on SPADE flushes, or that they are only paying out on flushes that were made with an ace and a card of the same suit in your hole, no matter the suit?

Also, boo at them for having a promotion and reneging on the deal later on. With this and the possible connection to Tower and their spamming, I feel less and less inclined to play there any longer.

Bobo Fett 06-13-2007 04:34 PM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
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I was told that for the Ace-high flush, you had to have TWO spades in your own hand, AND the Ace had to be one of them.

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Does that mean that they are only paying out on SPADE flushes, or that they are only paying out on flushes that were made with an ace and a card of the same suit in your hole, no matter the suit?

Also, boo at them for having a promotion and reneging on the deal later on. With this and the possible connection to Tower and their spamming, I feel less and less inclined to play there any longer.

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ACK! Did I actually write that?

No, I don't know what got "Spade" into my head this morning. The hole cards must be part of the flush, and the Ace must be one of those hole cards. Suit is irrelevant, it can be a flush of any suit. Sorry!

Just got a new promotion email from them, linking to the same page, but they finally put a link at the bottom to T&C's which now include this requirement.

Antti 06-14-2007 02:40 AM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
Hehe, I figured it was a flub, because it seemed so ridiculous. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

barongreenback 06-14-2007 04:48 AM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
I saw the 'new' conditions mentioned in the lobby by support last weekend. The str8 flush has conditions too but i don't remember them. Why is it so hard for them to just get the T&Cs right first time and make everything official? It would be easier for them as well as us.

WhatDoesCallMean 06-14-2007 04:49 PM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
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Just got a new promotion email from them, linking to the same page, but they finally put a link at the bottom to T&C's which now include this requirement.

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dont let them get off without paying for last weekends hands tho just cos they managed to fix the T&Cs after the fact.

it really was too good to be true tho in all fairness. I got paid for an A high flush on the first weekend when i had none of the suit in my hand [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

im in pissy sorta humour with the support there anyway so im not one bit surprised that they cant find it within themselves to just go and pay the bonus according to the T&Cs in force at the time.

Blue Lagoon 06-14-2007 05:43 PM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
After the first week-end, I knew T&C was different now. I don't know where I saw this, but I knew it.

By the way, it doesn't mean you are wrong about your case.

HPMike 06-18-2007 12:20 PM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
Hi Bobo Fett,

Sorry I've taken so long to reply to this thread (I don't read enough 2+2) [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I'm the current promotions manager at HollywoodPoker, and I would like to rectify this situation with you.

If you PM me with your username on HollywoodPoker I will email you at the email attached to your account and will solve this issue.

Regards,
- Mike

Bobo Fett 06-18-2007 02:00 PM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
PM sent.

Auren 06-18-2007 04:32 PM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
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Hi Bobo Fett,

Sorry I've taken so long to reply to this thread (I don't read enough 2+2) [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I'm the current promotions manager at HollywoodPoker, and I would like to rectify this situation with you.

If you PM me with your username on HollywoodPoker I will email you at the email attached to your account and will solve this issue.

Regards,
- Mike

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Since I am very suspicious of anything in internet...

Can anyone confirm this is real guy and not scammer? He got exactly 1 post... Be very very careful about giving him any info unless he is somehow confirmed to be real.

Bobo Fett 06-18-2007 04:52 PM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
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Hi Bobo Fett,

Sorry I've taken so long to reply to this thread (I don't read enough 2+2) [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I'm the current promotions manager at HollywoodPoker, and I would like to rectify this situation with you.

If you PM me with your username on HollywoodPoker I will email you at the email attached to your account and will solve this issue.

Regards,
- Mike

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Since I am very suspicious of anything in internet...

Can anyone confirm this is real guy and not scammer? He got exactly 1 post... Be very very careful about giving him any info unless he is somehow confirmed to be real.

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The thought had occured to me as well...however, since HPMike only requested my Screen Name and the hand numbers in question, I went ahead with it, and received some excellent results (see next post).

Bobo Fett 06-18-2007 05:14 PM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
OK, I have some very nice results to post here, thanks to HPMike. I have been paid in full for both hands that were denied earlier. Actually, I was paid double, I'm not sure if that was the intent or not.

In addition, I have been given a couple of tourney tickets. I feel the matter has now been resolved more than fairly, and would like to congratulate Hollywood Poker for doing the right thing, and then some.

HPMike took full responsibility for the confusion, as he said their support team was simply following the T&C's he had laid out for them...it would've been easy for him to lay this at their feet, so kudos to him for that.

Finally, I have one last thing to say about their CS. Although I was not getting what I wanted from them, I must say they were always VERY prompt and professional with their replies, and that helped move things along much quicker. At many sites, it would have taken weeks to get two or three replies, rather than a couple of days to exchange several emails like at HP.

I am going to use the "Notify Mod" button, as I think it would be a good idea to change the title of this thread now to reflect the excellent resolution.

HPMike 06-18-2007 05:17 PM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
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Hi Bobo Fett,

Sorry I've taken so long to reply to this thread (I don't read enough 2+2) [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I'm the current promotions manager at HollywoodPoker, and I would like to rectify this situation with you.

If you PM me with your username on HollywoodPoker I will email you at the email attached to your account and will solve this issue.

Regards,
- Mike

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Since I am very suspicious of anything in internet...

Can anyone confirm this is real guy and not scammer? He got exactly 1 post... Be very very careful about giving him any info unless he is somehow confirmed to be real.

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You're quite right to be cautious, especially since I created this account specifically to address the OP's concerns (hence, 1 post).

I had anticipated this concern, which is why I only asked for a screen name. If I was just some 'scammer', I couldn't email him - only a legitimate employee of HollywoodPoker would know his account's email from his SN.

- Mike

WhatDoesCallMean 06-18-2007 07:44 PM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
good to see that they held their hands up and paid out what they should have.

as a matter of interest, will u be around the forum for any Hollywood related questions in future Mike? it would be nice to have another rep post here from time to time addressing any issues that may arise.

HPMike 06-19-2007 10:28 AM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
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good to see that they held their hands up and paid out what they should have.

as a matter of interest, will u be around the forum for any Hollywood related questions in future Mike? it would be nice to have another rep post here from time to time addressing any issues that may arise.

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I can't make any guarantees at this time, I'm afraid, but I will try to check in every now and then, and I will always answer PMs if I see them. You're always best off going to support though - as BoboFett said, they're great - and besides which, they tend to be the ones who tell me I gotta come here and make good. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

AndyP 06-19-2007 11:14 AM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
I dealt with Hollywood Poker for couple of months and was surprised how good they were, because I was under assumption that OnGame = PokerRoom = Horrible. Bonuses were available right away, and checks took 2 days via courier.. I would recommend them.

pokerman777 06-21-2007 04:58 AM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
to HPMIKE
Hi Mike ,can you explain why are you doesn't work with epassporte yet ? Because i can only use epass and click2pay , but click2pay sucks, he has big technical problem when people withdraw money . What you think to add epass again ?
Thank you.

Bobo Fett 06-21-2007 05:02 AM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
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to HPMIKE
Hi Mike ,can you explain why are you doesn't work with epassporte yet ? Because i can only use epass and click2pay , but click2pay sucks, he has big technical problem when people withdraw money . What you think to add epass again ?
Thank you.

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Moneybookers ftw!

Is there a reason you can't use MB?

pokerman777 06-21-2007 05:15 AM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
i can't use because our goverment wanna get more then 30% tax from me !!! neteller doesn't accept my country .

HPMike 06-21-2007 03:30 PM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
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to HPMIKE
Hi Mike ,can you explain why are you doesn't work with epassporte yet ? Because i can only use epass and click2pay , but click2pay sucks, he has big technical problem when people withdraw money . What you think to add epass again ?
Thank you.

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Hi pokerman777,

I think you would be best to contact support regarding payment methods. I can't really assist you with this issue.

- Mike

lozen 06-22-2007 11:36 AM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
I think he replaces Julie. I acshed out due to lack of traffic and was paod promptly via check

pokerman777 06-22-2007 04:40 PM

Re: Hollywood Poker refuses to live up to their promotional T&Cs
 
what does mean julie ? and check doesnt accept my local bank too [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


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