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Acein8ter 06-13-2007 01:14 AM

Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
Of the 2+2 books that I have, right now I'd have to say that HOH1 & 2 has helped my overall game the most. (I'm just a SSNL player, 25nl to 100nl, 200nl live)

I haven't gone through TOP and HEFAP with a fine tooth comb yet.

Humble Pie 06-13-2007 01:19 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
I would think that Miller and Sklansky's No limit book should be most helpful to you. For me by far "Poker Truth and Poker Farce" was the most helpful.

Arrg 06-13-2007 01:33 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
^^^

What is their NL book called?

For me, GHSE and SSHE have helped me so much. They havn't earned their price back yet, but that's only becuase I keep trying to win @ NL ring games. (And I'm playing at the lowest micro stakes there are)

phydaux 06-13-2007 01:44 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
SSHE. It lay the foundation that allowed me to understand other poker books.

But these forums helped me more than any book.

Humble Pie 06-13-2007 03:17 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
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What is their NL book called?

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The book is called 'No Limit Hold'em: Theory and Practice'

LionelHutz00 06-13-2007 03:19 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
Theory of Poker and it's not even close.

*TT* 06-13-2007 03:21 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
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Theory of Poker and it's not even close.

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QFT

Gonso 06-13-2007 03:35 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
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Theory of Poker and it's not even close.

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Same here, though I think it could use a little more content that it has. MoP is growing on me lately also.

Mason Malmuth 06-13-2007 06:18 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
Hi Acein8ter:

The book that helped me the most was Hold 'em Poker for Advanced Plaers. But then again I was selling it.

Best wishes,
Mason

punter11235 06-13-2007 06:48 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
Small Stakes Holdem by Ed Miller. It was my first poker book and I learnt to play using it. I didnt learn much from other books with the exception of Mathematic of poker.
Most poker books are fun read though. You wont learn to beat NL from them (you can learn to play limit though) but still they can give you some ideas.

skillzilla 06-13-2007 06:59 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
sshe

tomtemor 06-13-2007 07:31 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
Small Stakes Holdem by Ed Miller. That's definitely the book that changed my game the most. I'm a no limit player now though.

Gelford 06-13-2007 07:33 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
Tho not my favorite 2+2 book, originally HOH was the one that helped the most (lol donkaments)

MadMat 06-13-2007 08:04 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
SSH by far, although I'm now playing NL, reading SSH 2 years ago really opened my eyes to how I should be thinking while playing poker. Especially the chapters on evaluating the flop and counting outs - pure gold!

Mat

deflY 06-13-2007 08:14 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
NLHE: TAP

Acein8ter 06-13-2007 09:28 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
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Hi Acein8ter:

The book that helped me the most was Hold 'em Poker for Advanced Plaers. But then again I was selling it.

Best wishes,
Mason

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Hey Mason,

I have gone through the book with a quick 'once over' and there is a LOT of concepts and strategies. I'm in the process of going through it again, then TOP.

It may become my #1 after it sinks into my head... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Acein8ter 06-13-2007 09:33 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
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SSHE. It lay the foundation that allowed me to understand other poker books.

But these forums helped me more than any book.

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I also read SSHE which was my 2nd poker book read, it a great book. It teaches the fundamentals and once you know the math behind poker, you can use all of the concepts in this book and apply NL betting.

The stickies in the SSNL & MSNL forums are very helpful and informative.

Acein8ter 06-13-2007 09:37 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
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Tho not my favorite 2+2 book, originally HOH was the one that helped the most (lol donkaments)

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I apply HOH mostly to cash games as the strategy is very similar. I'll play a donkament a few times a week.

Wilco666 06-13-2007 12:13 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
1. SSHE when I started playing limit.
2. HOH 1&2 when I made the transition to no-limit.
3. TOP`.

I'm sure if GSHE existed already when I started out, it would have been my first mega-important book.

Still have to read NLHTAP. I wouldn't be surprised if it became number 4 on my list. And I expect the upcoming NL cashgame book to be a great one.

King Car 06-13-2007 02:43 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
HOH 1 and 2.

Middelemiel 06-13-2007 04:11 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
Hold 'em Poker for Advanced Players... This is limit, right? Is it also interesting for No Limit players? Because the concepts in the book look interesting, but I don't know if I want to buy this one because I'm a no limit player.

TIGERsrm 06-13-2007 05:25 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
Overall - Theory of Poker
Limit - SSHE
NL - NLHTAP + HOH

I really should stop buying endless poker books and just go over these again and again and again and again.

Can't help myself though. Oh well back to browsing amazon......

Masakik 06-13-2007 05:43 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
Harrington on Hold'em V1,2,3. NLHTAP

ChuckyB 06-13-2007 05:59 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
SSHE by far.

rvg72 06-13-2007 07:19 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
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SSHE by far.

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lucksack 06-13-2007 08:06 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
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SSHE by far.

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NLHET&P probably helped me a lot too. I didn't even bother reading ToP although I bought it, didn't seem worth it after I had read SSHE and some others.

allingator 06-13-2007 08:08 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
NLHET&P and HOH 1&2

goofball 06-14-2007 01:52 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
Inside the poker mind

AMT 06-14-2007 03:26 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
NLHTAP and theory of poker.

jeffnc 06-14-2007 03:36 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
SSHE is good but after reading ITH and *fully* digesting it, there really wasn't as much new in SSHE as I might have thought (all the ideas were in ITH, but SSHE did a great job of highlighting and organizing specific concepts for specific games.)

The book that helped me the most was Harrington Vol II, and it's not close.

dubiousdrift 06-14-2007 04:00 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
I'm going to cheat the question a bit and say "It depends." (That is such an uncommon answer for poker players to give, right?) I have read a number of books and have a few more on my "I really ought to read that" list (like HOH 1&2) and a few more on my "I really want to read that as soon as it hits the shelves" list (like the up-coming Professional NLHE, Vol. 1).

When I think about the book that had the biggest impact on my thinking about poker in general, I have to say Theory of Poker. Before I read this book, I didn't understand the difference between a beatable game and an unbeatable game with a house edge. I had resolved not to play any of them because I believed that I could only loose at any of them over the long run. TOP got me interested in the game and after reading this book, I resolved to improve my game to the point that I could beat the regular home game that I had been invited to.

TOP fundamentally changed the way I thought about poker. For that point alone, I have to say that TOP is the book that has helped my game the most.

However, I have not read Theory of Poker three times and the spine on that book is still very legible. My copy of No Limit Hold 'em: Theory and Practice however is not so pristine. I have read sections of that book over and over and over again. It was the first book that I read that dealt specifically with No Limit Hold 'em and was applicable directly to cash games. I have chosen to study NLHE more than any other game and I strongly prefer cash games to tournaments. I often find myself reading a phrase like "When your opponent three-bets the turn...." and thinking "How does what the auther is trying to teach me translate to no limit?" I didn't have to do that with NLHTP. It was pure. No translations. Straight, undiluted No Limit goodness.

NLHTP helped me beat my regular home game on a consistent basis. For that point alone, I have to say that NLHTP is the book that has helped my game the most.

- dubiousdrift

sethypooh21 06-14-2007 04:22 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
SSHE or TPFAP - probably because of when I read it, it was my second poker book after HPFAP, and HPFAP was way too advanced for me, but TPFAP really opened my eyes about 'thinking' about poker. And no single idea improved my play faster than "the Gap concept"

deacsoft 06-14-2007 05:21 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
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Theory of Poker and it's not even close.

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QFT

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supersix 06-15-2007 05:52 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
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I'm sure if GSHE existed already when I started out, it would have been my first mega-important book.


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What's GSHE?

dyinginabubble 06-15-2007 10:02 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
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What's GSHE?

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Getting Started in Hold'em

dyinginabubble 06-15-2007 10:03 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
For me it's SSHE

jordiepop 06-16-2007 04:37 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
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Tho not my favorite 2+2 book, originally HOH was the one that helped the most (lol donkaments)

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hasanthadon 06-16-2007 02:16 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
i just got done reading through and taking notes on HOH vol2 (already did the same for HOH 1)

im intrigued by Ed Miller's SSHE, but since i only play NLHE and since I've already read two good beginner books on NLHE, should i bother with SSHE?

also, what do you guys think about HOH 3? I've heard a lot of great things about 1 and 2, and they definitely improved my game, but I havent heard a lot about volume 3

lastly, the HOH series is very much geared towards tournaments, both full-ring and short-handed. whats a good poker book specifically for cash games?

thanks

pocketse7ens 06-16-2007 02:27 PM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
Theory of Poker.

Deorum 06-17-2007 05:50 AM

Re: Which 2+2 book has helped you the most?
 
Poker Essays Volume III

This was the first 2+2 book I bought (actually bought it at the same time as Hold 'em Poker for Advanced Players, but after a quick glance at that book, I realized it was too advanced for me at that time, so I waited a while before reading it). It was easy to read and I really enjoyed the style in which the concepts were displayed. It was this book that led me to search for more 2+2 books, which are largely responsible for my success in poker today. I still enjoy reading it today as much as the first time. I like volume III the most, but the first two are very good as well. Mason, I wish there were more than three volumes in this series. Thanks you.


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