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SossMan 06-12-2007 04:30 PM

Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
End of the first level of the $1500 6max WSOP event.

My table is pretty weak, but I've been playing a little snug myself. Haven't really shown any out of line plays. I've opened my fair share, but nothing super crazy considering it's shorthanded.
I called a shortstack's utg AI w/ TT and lost to K2.
Next hand I call his AI w/ AQ and lose to TT.
I build it back up to around 3600 when this hand happens.

Blinds 25-50
Only other good player at the table who busted a lady, then got bad beated in another big pot, has 3400. I have 3600.

I open from CO w/ T7ss to 175
Good player in BB calls

Pot (375)
Flop is Td 7d 6s
He checks
I bet 300.
He checkraises me to 1k straight.

Decision point #1. I'm kinda lost here with the stacks.

Let's say I called.
He bets 1k more on the offsuit 4 turn.

I'm still lost.

0evg0 06-12-2007 04:51 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
go broke homie

shove over the flop raise

THEOSU 06-12-2007 04:55 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
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go broke homie

shove over the flop raise

[/ QUOTE ]


failing that, shove turn.

MEJG2 06-12-2007 04:59 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
I don't see many people CR the nuts on the flop, so I think it's more likely he has a good draw, JJ etc, maybe a set. I push the turn, if he has trips, catch the river [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. I also think he bets more than 1k on the turn with a set. Push.

luckychewy 06-12-2007 05:05 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
shove flop, i usually don't give these short answers w/o much reasoning but i don't see how this is remotely close. highly possible he has tx, diamonds, or an overpair which if he is actually good he is going to instacall the shove with.

WarDekar 06-12-2007 05:08 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
Y you have to shove here and I'm sorry you went broke, but top 2 = nuts in 6-max

BarryLyndon 06-12-2007 05:15 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
I wrote a post that advocated just calling the flop on the grounds that on this board he has a big flush/straight draw a high enough percentage of the time that if a diamond or straight card other than a four hits on the turn, you can get away from the hand while giving him smaller odds to hit street by street. either way, on this turn, you're getting your $$ in.

Barry

WarDekar 06-12-2007 05:20 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
Why would you want to call and let him see a cheap turn if he's drawing (and we have no idea to what)? That's so gross

8Adam8 06-12-2007 05:41 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
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shove flop, i usually don't give these short answers w/o much reasoning but i don't see how this is remotely close. highly possible he has tx, diamonds, or an overpair which if he is actually good he is going to instacall the shove with.

[/ QUOTE ]

QFT

Ansky 06-12-2007 05:43 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
[ QUOTE ]
End of the first level of the $1500 6max WSOP event.

My table is pretty weak, but I've been playing a little snug myself. Haven't really shown any out of line plays. I've opened my fair share, but nothing super crazy considering it's shorthanded.
I called a shortstack's utg AI w/ TT and lost to K2.
Next hand I call his AI w/ AQ and lose to TT.
I build it back up to around 3600 when this hand happens.

Blinds 25-50
Only other good player at the table who busted a lady, then got bad beated in another big pot, has 3400. I have 3600.

I open from CO w/ T7ss to 175
Good player in BB calls

Pot (375)
Flop is Td 7d 6s
He checks
I bet 300.
He checkraises me to 1k straight.

Decision point #1. I'm kinda lost here with the stacks.

Let's say I called.
He bets 1k more on the offsuit 4 turn.

I'm still lost.

[/ QUOTE ]

Soss why are you lost? You have top 2 in a raised pot in position against a good player and you have 70 big blinds. This isn't hard, nor complicated, nor confusing. Go all in on flop, but since you didn't you hit the absolute most perfect turn card save maybe a 2 instead of a 4, SO GO ALL IN.

Patrio 06-12-2007 06:03 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
End of the first level of the $1500 6max WSOP event.

My table is pretty weak, but I've been playing a little snug myself. Haven't really shown any out of line plays. I've opened my fair share, but nothing super crazy considering it's shorthanded.
I called a shortstack's utg AI w/ TT and lost to K2.
Next hand I call his AI w/ AQ and lose to TT.
I build it back up to around 3600 when this hand happens.

Blinds 25-50
Only other good player at the table who busted a lady, then got bad beated in another big pot, has 3400. I have 3600.

I open from CO w/ T7ss to 175
Good player in BB calls

Pot (375)
Flop is Td 7d 6s
He checks
I bet 300.
He checkraises me to 1k straight.

Decision point #1. I'm kinda lost here with the stacks.

Let's say I called.
He bets 1k more on the offsuit 4 turn.

I'm still lost.

[/ QUOTE ]

Soss why are you lost? You have top 2 in a raised pot in position against a good player and you have 70 big blinds. This isn't hard, nor complicated, nor confusing. Go all in on flop, but since you didn't you hit the absolute most perfect turn card save maybe a 2 instead of a 4, SO GO ALL IN.

[/ QUOTE ]

QFT

My guess is he was "lost" because he "lost" the hand

SossMan 06-12-2007 08:57 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
End of the first level of the $1500 6max WSOP event.

My table is pretty weak, but I've been playing a little snug myself. Haven't really shown any out of line plays. I've opened my fair share, but nothing super crazy considering it's shorthanded.
I called a shortstack's utg AI w/ TT and lost to K2.
Next hand I call his AI w/ AQ and lose to TT.
I build it back up to around 3600 when this hand happens.

Blinds 25-50
Only other good player at the table who busted a lady, then got bad beated in another big pot, has 3400. I have 3600.

I open from CO w/ T7ss to 175
Good player in BB calls

Pot (375)
Flop is Td 7d 6s
He checks
I bet 300.
He checkraises me to 1k straight.

Decision point #1. I'm kinda lost here with the stacks.

Let's say I called.
He bets 1k more on the offsuit 4 turn.

I'm still lost.

[/ QUOTE ]

Soss why are you lost? You have top 2 in a raised pot in position against a good player and you have 70 big blinds. This isn't hard, nor complicated, nor confusing. Go all in on flop, but since you didn't you hit the absolute most perfect turn card save maybe a 2 instead of a 4, SO GO ALL IN.

[/ QUOTE ]

QFT

My guess is he was "lost" because he "lost" the hand

[/ QUOTE ]

QFT

So I shoved and he showed me the nuts.

I assumed it was just a cooler, but just wanted to check. I really haven't played many tourney's lately and have been playing cash w/ 100+bb, so this gets a little different.

On a side note, the next hand blinds were 50-100 and I had 200 left.

At the end of level 2 I had 5600 and 15k at the end of level 3, so never give up.

A_PLUS 06-12-2007 09:17 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
The overbet C-R should rarely be the nuts here with these stacks, and no real history against a good player. I jam the flop, mostly b/c things just go downhill for our hand from here, the pot will be basically our stack, and if he is drawing, we don't know for sure what it is.

oh yeah, thought you might need this.
http://www.misplaced.net/stfu/whambulance.jpg

SossMan 06-12-2007 09:19 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
[ QUOTE ]
The overbet C-R should rarely be the nuts here with these stacks, and no real history against a good player. I jam the flop, mostly b/c things just go downhill for our hand from here, the pot will be basically our stack, and if he is drawing, we don't know for sure what it is.

oh yeah, thought you might need this.
http://www.misplaced.net/stfu/whambulance.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

Me and you in the same thread? What is this, November 2004?

SossMan 06-12-2007 09:20 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
aparently I've forgotten how to play poker.

A_PLUS 06-12-2007 09:30 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
[ QUOTE ]

Me and you in the same thread? What is this, November 2004?

[/ QUOTE ]

If CSC pops in this post to call me a push happy idiot, I am going invest the money I saved for my wife's wedding ring and buy some google stock.

I'm tellin ya Soss, we are gonna be rich!!! Who needs poker.

renodoc 06-12-2007 09:35 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
good push soss.

after watching "300" the morning of my first event, I felt the need to push at everything. not sure why.

FGators 06-13-2007 04:26 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
Definitely a flop shove. Easy push with the stacks, the board, and the hand. Chalk it up to a cooler.

Cornell Fiji 06-13-2007 05:12 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
All in on the flop.

He priced himself in with a draw.

All in on the turn, no other bet makes sense.

curtains 06-13-2007 05:18 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
Allin on flop, you don't really have that many chips.

SossMan 06-13-2007 05:54 PM

Re: Event #12 $1500 6max - It just got cold in here...
 
http://www.canadiandesignresource.ca...ian_design.jpg

okay, okay, I get it. I should have pushed the flop.


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