you be villain
hero is 30/20/1.8 and goes to SD 35%. he has played hands normally and beaten you at this table, but you don't respond to his chat.
Absolute Poker Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $3/$6 6 players Converter Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with two cards. UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO 3-bets</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls. Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7.67SB, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Hero calls. Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.83BB, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Hero calls. River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6.83BB, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Hero ?? ? ?? WITH YOU AS VILLAIN, 1. What should Hero do with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]? 2. What should Hero do with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]? feel free to comment on hero's play with these hands on prior streets. |
Re: you be villain
Aainst me the hero should bet/fold the river with QsJs and check/fold the river with AK.
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Re: you be villain
i wrote a response thinking the turn was a blank and didnt understand ILPs responses somewhat. now that i read the board correctly im with ilp. I havent stoved it but the turn with QJs is probably somewhat close but a call if villain is betting 66+ PPs and AJ+ non paired hands.
bet fold QJs and ck fold AKo both seem good. I think AQ hi calls a donk here a ton. |
Re: you be villain
He should check/call with both. When he takes a passive approach I think a good chunk of his range is AQ type hand, and I'm liable to bluff the river with KQ occasionally.
Edit: What's the worst hand you call Hero's river donk with? |
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if you have KQ don't you think ace high calls all the time?
that's what i thought when i check folded my AQ. |
Re: you be villain
I think most TAGs are calling ace high all the time, I would only bluff occasionally if villain is one of the better TAGs who is capable of folding ace high once he gets to the river with it.
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if you have KQ don't you think ace high calls all the time? [/ QUOTE ] No. which is why I bet KQ in that spot. I am not c/f'ing the AK hand ever. |
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What's hero saying in chat?
Call both hands, congradulate hero on getting to showdown again. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
Re: you be villain
I think most tags call with AK/AQ all day. AJ meh, I dunno. The thing is it's hard to see weaker Aces like A8 getting that far w/out a FD so when he does call the turn you def. have to include small/medium pockets in his range. Hero worrying about getting bluffed by K high is sorta paranoia since preflop limits such possibilities to KQ exclusively.
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Re: you be villain
All the responses confused me, I thought you were gonna spew c/r.
Hero should bet/fold QJ (flush). If I bet the turn I have at least A-hi and am not folding. I'll probably call KJ and better. I'll check behind most of these hands except I'd bet AK and maybe AQ for value. Intuitively, I think he should check/call AK to catch AK and AQ, but with as wide a range as I'm calling here, bet/fold is better. But he should cap AK preflop. |
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i agree about QJs being a b/f i just included it to mask my real question, which was about my actual hand AQ. it is also a little interesting because i would play a flush draw on the flop and turn like this, so even though he should expect a bet on the river from the flush, he should still have some worries about me holding one when i check (thus making him even less likely to fire again with AQ/KQ).
so yeah i folded. what was i saying in chat? "holla" after this hand happened: he raises A9o, i defend T7s. flop Q98 i check raise, he calls. turn 6 i bet, he raises, i 3-bet, he calls. river T i bet, he calls. |
Re: you be villain
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i agree about QJs being a b/f i just included it to mask my real question, which was about my actual hand AQ. it is also a little interesting because i would play a flush draw on the flop and turn like this, so even though he should expect a bet on the river from the flush, he should still have some worries about me holding one when i check (thus making him even less likely to fire again with AQ/KQ). so yeah i folded. what was i saying in chat? "holla" after this hand happened: he raises A9o, i defend T7s. flop Q98 i check raise, he calls. turn 6 i bet, he raises, i 3-bet, he calls. river T i bet, he calls. [/ QUOTE ] lol ship it! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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