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marchron 06-09-2007 10:06 AM

K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
[censored] the stakes, this table applies here. The guy on my immediate right was the donk I've whooped twice up this high or higher; everyone else is unknown.


UltimateBet 5/10 (9-handed)

Preflop: <font color="green">marchron</font> is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">UTG folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">Button folds</font>, SB (Donk) completes, <font color="green">marchron checks</font>.

Flop: (7 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
Donk checks, <font color="green">marchron </font>. . .

BigBadBabar 06-09-2007 10:07 AM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
marchron bets?

or marchron checks and sees with intention of checkraising?

fretelöo 06-09-2007 10:10 AM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
Checks and sees what develops. Maybe c/r a LP bet, c/calls some other bets, folds for two.

pegboy 06-09-2007 10:28 AM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
marchron checks with the intention of folding. Top pair weak kicker does not win many family pots from the early position. It's a holding that sure can lose you some money though. I suppose the 3 running cards may make it worth a check raise if everyone folds to a button bet. You could call for one bet to see the turn if nothing heats up. But I sure don't bet into that field with your holding.

Niediam 06-09-2007 11:07 AM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
Check and evaluate is the standard play.

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S 06-09-2007 11:14 AM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
meh checking slightly &gt; betting imo

ckmo 06-09-2007 11:34 AM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
Unless this is a really strange table, I think its an auto check and evaluate for me.

You might have the only K out but I don't see leading into a crowd with a horrible kicker and a flush draw on the board a good thing with that many people left to act.

sharpie 06-09-2007 12:04 PM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Check and evaluate is the standard play.

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neeeel 06-09-2007 03:26 PM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
nice attempt at a rickroll. I still clicked on the link anyway, cos i wanted to watch rick in action :P

marchron 06-09-2007 03:37 PM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
My first thought was YO TENGO TOP PAIR BETBETBET, but then came to my senses and thought YO TENGO RIO GRANDE, CHECKCHECKCHECK.

Here's where the bet winds up coming from. Anyone for raising three to shut out two, or should I wait for a safe turn card?

(And no, I'm not trying to backdoor a playalong, boz.)

UltimateBet 5/10 (9-handed)

Preflop: <font color="green">marchron</font> is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">UTG folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">Button folds</font>, SB (Donk) completes, <font color="green">marchron checks</font>.

Flop: (7 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
Donk checks, <font color="green">marchron checks</font>, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#666666">MP3 folds</font>, CO calls, Donk calls, <font color="green">marchron </font>. . .

Buzz-cp 06-09-2007 03:46 PM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
call

fretelöo 06-09-2007 04:55 PM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
Yeah, just call.

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S 06-09-2007 05:24 PM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
calls ldo

marchron 06-09-2007 11:27 PM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
Woohoo, two for two. This may seem LDO to you, but I can't remember the last time I had a seven-way pot without a hand that essentially played itself (i.e. AA, 44, 87s, et cetera).

UltimateBet 5/10 (9-handed)

Preflop: <font color="green">marchron</font> is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">UTG folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">Button folds</font>, SB (Donk) completes, <font color="green">marchron checks</font>.

Flop: (7 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
Donk checks, <font color="green">marchron checks</font>, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#666666">MP3 folds</font>, CO calls, Donk calls, <font color="green">marchron calls</font>, <font color="#666666">UTG+1 folds</font>, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Donk checks, <font color="green">marchron </font>. . .

Yay, hit just about the perfect card . . . now WTF do I do?

Reasons to bet:
—YO TENGO TRIPS LDO BETBETBET.
—I have no idea if MP2 will bet again, and letting this get checked through would suck yaks.

Reasons to check:
—I still have the lowest possible kicker. MP2 is unlikely to have bet into six opponents with total air, so her having the case K is a possibility, and any other Kx will own my ass.
—I'd be laying 7-1 to the field, still big enough to call lotsa stuff with the mega-implieds conceivable with five players still in this far.

When in doubt, donk it? Or do I check — and for what purpose, check/calling or check/raising?

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S 06-10-2007 02:31 AM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
donk that shiznit

unterfish 06-10-2007 02:47 AM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
LOL (I am an [censored], but I keep LOLing as long as you dont disprove me.) (And nerdking beats me.)

FUJItheFISH 06-10-2007 05:12 AM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
we should c/call the turn most of the time for the same reason we c/call the flop.

id prefer c/raising the turn but, thats because im a retard.

marchron 06-10-2007 08:30 PM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
[ QUOTE ]
id prefer c/raising the turn but, thats because im a retard.

[/ QUOTE ]
I don't think it's that retarded. Probably falls somewhere between

http://www.dsala.org/graphics/photos...is_burke_2.jpg

and

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.ya...anks/gump3.jpg

infinity235 06-11-2007 09:53 AM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
definite check/raise or donkbet if youre not sure whether MP1 is gonna bet. the case K is pretty unlikely here, and even if he does have it, putting as much money as possible into there is the best play so far. youre WA most of the time here.

check/fold the river if a club hits.

fretelöo 06-11-2007 10:02 AM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
[ QUOTE ]
check/fold the river if a club hits.

[/ QUOTE ]

lol?

infinity235 06-11-2007 10:28 AM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
my bad, was saying check/call.

marchron 06-11-2007 12:20 PM

Re: K3o in BB, family pot, I should know how to handle this, YMI lost?
 
In the end, the yaks got sucked; I checked and it was checked around.

I think Eskimo (or ESKiMo or 35|&lt;1|\/|0 or however he spells his name) and infinity were right; I should have donked. It was my last chance to get flush draws and sundry other hands to pay off. The river came 10[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]; I bet and everybody folded.


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