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Praetor 06-08-2007 10:06 PM

Value in a raise? 10/20 2 pir
 
VIllain is 31/12/2 no other reads

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $20.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB ($2144.22)
UTG ($1209.21)
MP ($2922.68)
Hero ($5954.68)
SB ($3307.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $90</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $70.

Flop: ($210) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($210) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $180</font>, UTG calls $180.

River: ($570) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">

800 left to play for

Teh1337zor 06-08-2007 10:07 PM

Re: Value in a raise? 10/20 2 pir
 
I just call here dont see what you beat that would call the raise

chirpy 06-08-2007 10:26 PM

Re: Value in a raise? 10/20 2 pir
 
i raise to 400ish for value here without too much thought

tufat23 06-08-2007 10:28 PM

Re: Value in a raise? 10/20 2 pir
 
against unsophisticated players, raising to $266 is good here. you have a lot of options.

Hattifnatt 06-08-2007 10:29 PM

Re: Value in a raise? 10/20 2 pir
 
350, fold if he pushes.

True 06-08-2007 11:12 PM

Re: Value in a raise? 10/20 2 pir
 
250-300, maybe more the more donkish he is or the more inclined he is to believe that his bet looks weak and you are just taking advantage of that.

berserk 06-09-2007 12:07 AM

Re: Value in a raise? 10/20 2 pir
 
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i raise to 400ish for value here without too much thought

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aislephive 06-09-2007 12:12 AM

Re: Value in a raise? 10/20 2 pir
 
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i raise to 400ish for value here without too much thought

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Agreed.

Overfloater 06-09-2007 12:24 AM

Re: Value in a raise? 10/20 2 pir
 
this is a pretty easy shove

Phresh 06-09-2007 12:31 AM

Re: Value in a raise? 10/20 2 pir
 
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this is a pretty easy shove

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Disagree. Way too much.

mkind0516 06-09-2007 12:36 AM

Re: Value in a raise? 10/20 2 pir
 
Not too many hands calling here that u beat (I wouldn't think). He could easily be block-betting a hand like 97 against the potential straight/flush. I just call, as I prob would with any 2 pair here.

aislephive 06-09-2007 01:07 AM

Re: Value in a raise? 10/20 2 pir
 
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Not too many hands calling here that u beat (I wouldn't think). He could easily be block-betting a hand like 97 against the potential straight/flush. I just call, as I prob would with any 2 pair here.

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Yes he could be blocking 97, but it's a million times more likely he is blocking with just top pair, wierdly played AA, second pair, worse two pair, etc. And don't worry about what worse hands are calling from a villain like this, if his bet isn't total air (which it rarely is) he will have something to call a raise with.

Praetor 06-09-2007 06:22 AM

Re: Value in a raise? 10/20 2 pir
 
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this is a pretty easy shove

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This is what I did, but in hindsight its definitely overkill/tough to get called by worse hands/obviously no room to manouver. I kinda like 350 fold to shove vs this villain. He had the nut flush anyway \o/

RoelofZ 06-09-2007 06:50 AM

Re: Value in a raise? 10/20 2 pir
 
I raise for value, he has a pretty big range

Ace-King 06-09-2007 07:36 AM

Re: Value in a raise? 10/20 2 pir
 
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this is a pretty easy shove

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Too much surely?

Also, no-one keen for a flop bet?

Overfloater 06-09-2007 06:48 PM

Re: Value in a raise? 10/20 2 pir
 
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this is a pretty easy shove

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Disagree. Way too much.

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the guy is playing with 60bb. He's obviously a donkey. And nowadays block bet isnt "bet-fold" its "bet-please-dont-raise-me-omg-omg-you-raised-[censored]-[censored]-[censored]-call"

rand 06-09-2007 07:32 PM

Re: Value in a raise? 10/20 2 pir
 
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this is a pretty easy shove

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Disagree. Way too much.

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the guy is playing with 60bb. He's obviously a donkey. And nowadays block bet isnt "bet-fold" its "bet-please-dont-raise-me-omg-omg-you-raised-[censored]-[censored]-[censored]-call"

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this is great... im raising as much as i think hell call

Praetor 06-15-2007 11:17 PM

Re: Value in a raise? 10/20 2 pir
 
ez fold.


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