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IcarusJam 06-07-2007 11:43 PM

high stakes poker season 4?
 
If so, when?

Taso 06-07-2007 11:45 PM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
There is going to be a season 4, from what I understand, they are done filming - not sure when it will start airing.

menacing_1 06-08-2007 12:23 AM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
The first episode was originally scheduled to air in late September, but GSN is now attempting to move it up to Monday, August 27.

otter 06-19-2007 01:35 AM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
damn....long time

PorkchopDJG 06-21-2007 11:25 AM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
It will be a sweet late summer/fall of televised poker with the WSOP and HSP airing all new episodes.

Anything is better than watching the pathetic WPT final tables.

Jourdain 06-27-2007 12:45 PM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
Check this out:

http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/a...s/cheser01.htm

nycnyupoker 06-28-2007 05:33 PM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
HSP, easily best poker on TV these days.

JJBuffone 06-29-2007 02:23 AM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
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Check this out:

http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/a...s/cheser01.htm

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Awesome article. I can't wait!

vdomalip 06-29-2007 07:29 AM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
Lord please let there be a atleast one person to bust Jamie Gold!

Whitewash 06-29-2007 10:54 AM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
Million dollar pot? That is ridiculous if they were still only playing 300/600/1200.

Suigin406 06-29-2007 11:57 AM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
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Lord please let there be a atleast one person to bust Jamie Gold!

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Rottersod 06-29-2007 01:55 PM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
"Unlike certain stretches of season three, these tables never lacked action. For one entire session, the table agreed that any player winning a pot with seven-deuce would collect $500 from everyone else at the table. The $1,200 straddle was a regular fixture and, when that was not enough, a $2,400 re-straddle took over. Players raised and bet "in the dark". All-in players "ran it twice" and negotiated insurance deals with their table mates. In a single five hour period, there were seventeen all-ins, with eleven of them called! Can you say "rebuy"?"

In my mind "action" and agreeing to run it twice and buying insurance are opposites. I hope we don't get teased with big pots only to have them split or have the players negotiate down to a much smaller amount.

JJBuffone 06-29-2007 03:55 PM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
I'm pretty sure the insurance has to do with Hellmuth since he's such a nit.

Hendricks433 06-29-2007 04:26 PM

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Million dollar pot? That is ridiculous if they were still only playing 300/600/1200.

[/ QUOTE ] there were double stradles to 2400.

LennartZ 06-29-2007 04:35 PM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
still gotta be a pretty sick cooler or a really bad play.....

WayAbvPar 06-29-2007 06:40 PM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
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Doyle Brunson, when another player showed a horrible hand after pulling off a huge bluff: "Now I remember how I became a millionaire."

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Awesome.

Lord_Strife 06-30-2007 02:33 AM

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Million dollar pot? That is ridiculous if they were still only playing 300/600/1200/2400.

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FYP

Whitewash 06-30-2007 03:58 PM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
Do you know for a fact that they were straddling every hand to $2400, or even on that hand?

menacing_1 06-30-2007 04:59 PM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
Let's settle the confusion once and for all. At the table where the minimum buy-in was $500k, there were 3 blinds in play of $300/$600/$1200 with a $100 ante on every hand to create even more action. There was not an additional straddle of $2400 employed on every hand, but it did happen on occasion.

At the tables with the $100,000 minimum buy-in where the blinds were the normal $300/$600 with a $100 ante, a $1200 straddle was often used, and sometimes a double straddle of $2400 was also in play.

TonyLA 07-01-2007 12:40 AM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
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In my mind "action" and agreeing to run it twice and buying insurance are opposites. I hope we don't get teased with big pots only to have them split or have the players negotiate down to a much smaller amount.

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I always laugh a bit when I hear about these pros in high stakes cash games running the river - TWICE. Granted, everything is relative, but if these players are going to be allowed to run the river more than once, for god sakes, run it three times! All you're doing is reducing variance, so if players are up for making a deal to do just that, then they should always run it 3 times.

I have to assume they are only allowed to run it two times on the show - but if they're allowed to run it three, there's no reason *not* to run it 3 times if they have the option.

If they don't have the option - shame on the producers. Gabe can explain it to the viewers at home. There's a lot of money involved.

- T

1968 07-06-2007 04:02 AM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
lol at DB's seat.

Maliant 07-09-2007 04:00 AM

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Lord please let there be a atleast one person to bust Jamie Gold!

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That donkey is still around? I wonder if he looked on 2+2 if he'd get a headache at all these concepts he doesn't understand.

pricedin 07-09-2007 09:25 AM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
Jamie Gold must really have an inflated ego. Buying in for 500k at THIS table? It's like he's trying to lose his money.

Devilboy666 07-09-2007 10:21 AM

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All you're doing is reducing variance, so if players are up for making a deal to do just that, then they should always run it 3 times.

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They are allowed to run it 3 times. But what's wrong with just twice? If they want I'm sure the producers will let them put the cards into PokerStove and split the pot exactly according to their equity which would reduce the variance to the minimum but what's the fun in that?

Maliant 07-09-2007 05:49 PM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
Runnning twice is kinda lame imo, and also what I don't get is players who iso themselves w/ big raise in a field of limpers and then split the pot among themselves somewhere in the hand, this has happened a few times if i remember correctly. Wouldn't you be pissed if you were one of the limpers and shouldn't that not be allowed?

dyinginabubble 07-09-2007 09:52 PM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
Now all they need to do is release all of the seasons on DVD.

....what does FYP stand for?

Devilboy666 07-09-2007 11:23 PM

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Runnning twice is kinda lame imo, and also what I don't get is players who iso themselves w/ big raise in a field of limpers and then split the pot among themselves somewhere in the hand, this has happened a few times if i remember correctly. Wouldn't you be pissed if you were one of the limpers and shouldn't that not be allowed?

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If you folded your hand you have no more interest in the pot. What the remaining players do after that has no effect on you.

Maliant 07-10-2007 01:13 AM

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Lol don't you understand this is happens all the time in games where people work together to isolate people's money by raising hard against each other. Two players could easily raise hard against each other w/ marginal holdings and split everyone elses money that's in no way accepted.

Jeff76 07-10-2007 04:19 AM

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what I don't get is players who iso themselves w/ big raise in a field of limpers and then split the pot among themselves somewhere in the hand, this has happened a few times if i remember correctly. Wouldn't you be pissed if you were one of the limpers and shouldn't that not be allowed?

[/ QUOTE ]I've always been curious about this- I would think it should be against the rules.

Devilboy666 07-10-2007 05:09 AM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
That's called 'collusion' and banning pot splitting there won't help since the players can just split the money after the game is over if that's what they are doing.

Maliant 07-10-2007 05:10 AM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
Farha seems shady to me lawl

TheDna 07-10-2007 05:57 AM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
This is such a tease i cant wait.. :X

Devilboy666 07-10-2007 06:50 AM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
I agree that Farha seems shady.. I can't work out how he can afford to play in all these games - he's really not in the same class as Harman / Negreanu / Greenstein etc...

Jourdain 07-10-2007 06:52 AM

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I agree that Farha seems shady.. I can't work out how he can afford to play in all these games - he's really not in the same class as Harman / Negreanu / Greenstein etc...

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Well, on his last trip he won 7 million according to Harman and Elezra.

Maliant 07-10-2007 07:08 AM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
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I agree that Farha seems shady.. I can't work out how he can afford to play in all these games - he's really not in the same class as Harman / Negreanu / Greenstein etc...

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Look at color of his skin, family probably are rich oil tycoons.

ZingZhang 07-10-2007 11:37 PM

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Now all they need to do is release all of the seasons on DVD.

....what doesn't FYP stand for?

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FYP [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

TxPkrKid 07-11-2007 03:37 AM

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Million dollar pot? That is ridiculous if they were still only playing 300/600/1200.

[/ QUOTE ] there were double stradles to 2400.

[/ QUOTE ]they were playing 3k/6k-1k on day 3

Shandrax 07-11-2007 05:39 AM

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Lord please let there be a atleast one person to bust Jamie Gold!

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Funny, but I am starting to like the guy. He is quite funny for various reasons.

Taso 07-11-2007 05:54 AM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
The reason they don't do it "3 times" instead of twice, my guess would be, is because with 3 times there is usually a winner. Twice, its more likely to be chopped. As Sammy said in the first season, "I like to gamble, but I also like to get my money back." <paraphrased.

Distillery 07-12-2007 05:05 AM

Re: high stakes poker season 4?
 
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The reason they don't do it "3 times" instead of twice, my guess would be, is because with 3 times there is usually a winner. Twice, its more likely to be chopped. As Sammy said in the first season, "I like to gamble, but I also like to get my money back." <paraphrased.

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Yeah, the sole reason for running it twice is to get the chance of getting half the pot even if you're a pretty big underdog. Not that it matters in the long run, but oh well.


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