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iSTRONG 06-03-2007 10:14 AM

iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
Sup yall. It's been a while since I've made a vid... but I'm back for a couple more.

You can download the new vid HERE (right click on link and select "save link as")

You can find my previous videos here

Feedback welcome as usual.

tufat23 06-03-2007 10:16 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
1st

Imrahil 06-03-2007 10:17 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
I've gotten banned for saying 1st in a BBV thread before so I'll just say, YAY!!

tufat23 06-03-2007 10:25 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
u'd get banned here too, because you're 2nd!!!

tufat23 06-03-2007 10:29 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
10mins in. ure a nit [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Imrahil 06-03-2007 10:33 AM

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10mins in. ure a nit [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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WTF, you download g00t. Mine is still at 75%.

deaders 06-03-2007 10:34 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
dling now

Nemesis69 06-03-2007 10:48 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
downloading

barryc83 06-03-2007 10:51 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
lol 14k/s issckm.

tufat23 06-03-2007 10:51 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
[censored]. i got rickrolled

deaders 06-03-2007 10:56 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
32s otb to a minraise, ewww.

I dont raise A2s utg with the 42 and 47 vpip players having position on me.

wow, folding QJo on the button with one UTG limper, that is super nitty.

Sorry not being a douche, Im just commenting on hands as im watching it and some of them seem a bit wack to me.

iSTRONG 06-03-2007 11:03 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
Funny that tufat is dissing me for folding ATo on the BB vs. an UTG raise & calling me a nit. And that deaders is dissing for being too loose for calling 32s OTB to a minraise and raising A2s UTG.

FWIW I agree with the A2s hand; with 2 loose players behind it can't be profitable.

Deaders; no worries. As I said all feedback welcome.

jonyy6788 06-03-2007 11:04 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
"min raising all over the [censored] place"

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also, I misses da Party

deaders 06-03-2007 11:09 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
"Its all about winning big pots against donks"

I love it, that should be the ssnl mission statement.

Hate the T8 hand, it wasnt a good board for the 2nd barrel and id check the flop there fairly often.

tufat23 06-03-2007 11:20 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
PAVEL55 HOOOOLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAA

deaders 06-03-2007 11:22 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
oh and damn im considering playing on party again, it really is still as juicy as everyone says.

SpecT 06-03-2007 11:30 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
fwiw tables usually arent that soft... i have 12 1/2NL tables open atm and av vpips on all tables are below 30

iSTRONG 06-03-2007 11:38 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
For those of you with a slow connection, you can download the .rar version here

The White Rabbit 06-03-2007 12:25 PM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
somewhere after 8 minutes, right table, short stack LAG opens UTG, BTN donk calls, you're in the SB w/ 33, such an easy shove???

tufat23 06-03-2007 12:36 PM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
question: when i make a vid, how come no one ever wants to talk about the hands?

The White Rabbit 06-03-2007 12:38 PM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
prob. because I missed it?

And Pavel is sick...

Good vid!


hra146 06-03-2007 12:42 PM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
sooo much love for u & ur vids, seriously. I enjoy them a lot and I obv. love your accent too.

besides: am I the only one who could just (left)click the link and start watching?


edit: *raises ATo in the BB, flop : ATTr* "flopped a good hand here"

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matrix 06-03-2007 12:43 PM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
d/ling now.

am still getting nailed by Party 50NL donks.

I shall keep how the 200donks play in mind for some fun in a month or two when I get that high [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

SilentNoise 06-03-2007 02:11 PM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
OMG. no way the normal party 200nl is made up like that!?!?! those must be rare exceptions right? its not like stars which have 2/3 tags per table?!

when i go home next week sometime gonna deposit. aint got time to sort out a new funding method for my account at the mo.

cant wait to start playing there

are all tables really made up like that though? seems like a dream

Symbolic 06-03-2007 02:14 PM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
It's not like that all the time, it's just becasue it was a saturday night. Fridays and saturday nights are usually pretty crazy.

iSTRONG 06-03-2007 02:15 PM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
nah, it really isn't.

I've got a huge DB and spadeeye so I make sure I'm always on the best tables. Also, this was saturday night.

It's definitly fishier than other sites but nothing like you might infere from this vid.

RepulseMonkey 06-03-2007 02:17 PM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
Gotta love that Rick Astley though. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

aislephive 06-03-2007 02:36 PM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
I think you're checking as the preflop raiser far too often postflop. For example, QJ on KTx flop in position against a donk, checking is way too passive.

jonyy6788 06-03-2007 02:39 PM

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I think you're checking as the preflop raiser far too often postflop. For example, QJ on KTx flop in position against a donk, checking is way too passive.

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this is criminal

gir 06-03-2007 03:10 PM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
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I think you're checking as the preflop raiser far too often postflop. For example, QJ on KTx flop in position against a donk, checking is way too passive.

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The guy folded to c-bet 27% as stated earlier in the video. Don't you pay attention?! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] (or maybe that was someone else in the same seat...maybe I don't pay attention)

iSTRONG 06-03-2007 03:35 PM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
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I think you're checking as the preflop raiser far too often postflop. For example, QJ on KTx flop in position against a donk, checking is way too passive.

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This is true on FT or PS. I don't think it is on party. I used to be someone who c-bet 100% of flops. The problem is that you get check-raised all the time on party. Mostly with air, sometimes with a top or mid pair and they WILL felt it. Other times they'll call you down with 3-rd pair. That's why I've cut down a lot of the c-bets (prob c-bet about 50% of the time only). This gives me more credibility when i do c-bet & I really need villain to fold (ie I've not connected at all). I really don't think it's "criminal" to check behind with a good draw against these opponents.

Black Wings 06-03-2007 03:51 PM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
i havent really watched the video, just wanted to say given you last post i feel your c-bet percentage should be closer to 70% than 50.

Mahtimies 06-03-2007 03:53 PM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
I think its better to just bet the draw no matter how bad the donk is, unless he is so short that he can checkraise you and you won't have odds to call. Most of the time if they dont fold, they just call and check the turn so you can take the free card to see river. When you check the turn they are mostly gonna donk the river so you get great value if you hit. If you check the flop they are often gonna bet the turn and you will have an annoying spot if you didnt hit, cause you prolly won't have implieds to call.

edit:

Also betting the flop builds the pot which is good so you can play a big pot if you hit and they happen to have a decent hand, after all you wanna stack the donk no? The passive slowplaying party fish wont raise you off a draw very often, even when they got a monster they often minraise and you can call to see if you can stack em.

Voy Por Ustedes 06-03-2007 03:56 PM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
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"min raising all over the [censored] place"

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Directrix 06-03-2007 08:43 PM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
"don't bluff.... don't do what I just did... and you'll be fine!"

LOL

Love the video & commentary.

jonyy6788 06-03-2007 09:17 PM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
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I think you're checking as the preflop raiser far too often postflop. For example, QJ on KTx flop in position against a donk, checking is way too passive.

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This is true on FT or PS. I don't think it is on party. I used to be someone who c-bet 100% of flops. The problem is that you get check-raised all the time on party. Mostly with air, sometimes with a top or mid pair and they WILL felt it. Other times they'll call you down with 3-rd pair. That's why I've cut down a lot of the c-bets (prob c-bet about 50% of the time only). This gives me more credibility when i do c-bet & I really need villain to fold (ie I've not connected at all). I really don't think it's "criminal" to check behind with a good draw against these opponents.

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I still think you have to bet with OESD, likely to have cards to pair, etc.

Taking your incredible equity against his range, plus a hint of fold equity=profit, plus we want to build a pot on the flop if we hit turn/river

Imrahil 06-04-2007 10:01 AM

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"don't bluff.... don't do what I just did... and you'll be fine!"

LOL

Love the video & commentary.

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I'm loling really hard at that right now.

Panthro 06-04-2007 10:03 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
nice rickroll

joeblack 06-04-2007 10:55 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
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"don't bluff.... don't do what I just did... and you'll be fine!"

LOL

Love the video & commentary.

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Nice 3 barrell. lol A5os is a beast!

13_Xerxes 06-04-2007 11:42 AM

Re: iSTRONG\'s Video Tutorial #10: NL200 6-max : Party donks edition
 
Nice video, ty !

Is Party Poker or Everest the worst site ever ?


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