This is the weakest Ive ever been.
 

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $440.80
BB: $1,163.29
UTG: $394.00
MP: $569.64
CO: $405.52
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $675.90</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $12.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($34) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $26.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $76.00</font>, Hero folds.


Villian is a 10/7 but only after 29 hands. Nothing of note.

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Yea you have to call and play poker on the turn. Scared of only 66/77 (67?)? OOP this would be much more difficult.

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Bump cause no one seems to care :?

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I would peel the turn for sure, probably call another barrell and fold the river UI, but that might be spewy. Still, over 30 hands 10/7 doesn't mean much. He could very easily be 25/20 over a larger sample and just be card dead. I think folding to one measly check-raise is too weak.

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this seems fine; obviously if he keeps doing this then adjust and call down etc

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How does he have 3 buy-ins and you have nothing of note?

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caaallllll

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30 hands is basically an unknown. I'd at least see a turn

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I call a bet cos my image is so aggressive that even the nits tend to get out of line vs me now and again (your image is probably pretty similar) and usually nits will make it easy with their draws after the flop raise (pussy bets if they miss, big bets if they hit)... but that said I don't hate the fold

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what
the
hell

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This is awful. You can't be too confident in the stats after just 30 hands. There is a straight draw and a flush draw on board, it's a blind steal situation, and you have a monster. 3-betting is a bit awkward with these stacks and you would have to reluctantly call a shove, but it would be a much better move than folding. Calling with the intention of getting it in on most turns is fine too.

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he's 10/7 so far, and even if stats are a bit off from sample size he's still a european non-regular which generally means very passive. party randoms with tight stats just don't checkraise worse hands here. euronits check call 98cc... it's probably difficult to understand if you are used to playing with americans... i mean i still call the flop bet but it's a crying call praying he's a new TAG in disguise and i wouldn't even consider threebetting flop.

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caaallllll

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call flop come on

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Yeah lets call the flop and fold the turn because he is absolutely never going to stop betting here. I am sure players at higher levels do, but at 2/4 NL when someone c/rs a flop they follow through on 90% of turns. Calling flop with the intent of folding turn seems dumb. So we either make a read and fold it here or we keep going unless the board texture changes.

Not saying I do this on 100% of flops, but anyone who thinks he isn't c/r and following through on this board texture is not paying attention.

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It's a blind steal. Are you guys missing this? AK is HUGE.

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he's 10/7 so far, and even if stats are a bit off from sample size he's still a european non-regular which generally means very passive. party randoms with tight stats just don't checkraise worse hands here. euronits check call 98cc... it's probably difficult to understand if you are used to playing with americans... i mean i still call the flop bet but it's a crying call praying he's a new TAG in disguise and i wouldn't even consider threebetting flop.

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This is exactly what I was thinking. These guys never raise draws. Do you know my sn out of curosity, since you referred to my image? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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It's a blind steal. Are you guys missing this? AK is HUGE.

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Have you played Euro-sites? These guys just don't think that way. They aren't wired into that bastardised American tourney style of thinking where top pair is teh nuts, draws must be pushed hard, and no-one ever has anything - the non-regs are mostly terrified nits!

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This is exactly what I was thinking. These guys never raise draws. Do you know my sn out of curosity, since you referred to my image? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Pretty sure you were talking about $500 steaks today when the moron left? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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So true about the euro-style nits. Id call reluctantly and see the turn, definitely not 3-bet. Being a steal situation is practically irrelevant against this style of player.

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he's 10/7 so far, and even if stats are a bit off from sample size he's still a european non-regular which generally means very passive. party randoms with tight stats just don't checkraise worse hands here. euronits check call 98cc... it's probably difficult to understand if you are used to playing with americans... i mean i still call the flop bet but it's a crying call praying he's a new TAG in disguise and i wouldn't even consider threebetting flop.

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bang on. calling&gt;&gt;folding&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;3-betting/calling shove

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i'd call and fold if he fires big on the turn. sometimes they check on the turn, then you can check behind and hopefully value bet him on river or he makes a misplaces value bet himself with QK, JK.

Often he will think he is ahead and didnt want to face a raise if he bet so decided to check raise himself.

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If I believe his stats, I just fold.
Sometimes I call and fold turn.
Sometimes I call and call turn.
I never call all the way down.

If you dont know him at all and the only thing you have is nitty stats over a few hands, I dont hate folding.

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Pretty sure you were talking about $500 steaks today when the moron left? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Easiest lunch I ever made.

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caaallllll

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I dont mind big folds in general, but this is so terrible from a game theory point of view that it's impossible to defend.

Really, that sample size basically makes him an unknown and if you open like what, 35-40% or more, OTB and folds TPTK on that board to a CR, you're in for some heavy [censored] exploitation.

This is clearly a spot where I think we have to stack of a decent percentage of the times, and at the absolute least see a turn.

My standard line in this spot whould prolly be to call flop and shove the safest turns, calling some others and mucking the worst to heavy betting. Folding the flop, in any case, is just plain terrible. No disrespect or anything, but thats a fact.