Best Way To Bonus Whore Casinos?
 

I've just started doing a bit of bonus whoring at online casinos and was wondering the best way to go about it. I am using beatingbonuses.com as my guide but am concerned about getting accounts blocked if it is to obv I am just whoring against the house.

Is this likely to be a problem? Are there stratergies to help avoid detection, maybe clear a few different bonuses at any one time thereby reducing your play at each casino, or playing some hands during non-bonus times?

I've started off just getting a bonus and playing it through in a day or two and then withdrawing, but I'm guessing if I want to do this medium/long term I need to be a bit more subtle.

Any thoughts?

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Any of the Microgamings don't care.

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Youve missed the boat by at least 2 years, bonuses have become nearly unbeatable and no matter what you do they will figure out that you're a winning player and ban you fairly quickly, intercasino used to be handy money once a month so any month I was ahead I would play a few 100$ worth of a -EV game after completing the WR, I havent bothered doing a bonus anywhere since Intercasino went 50x for blackjack.

Basically I am sure they go along the same line as sportsbook firms - if your account is ahead you'll be banned eventually.

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If you're not a US resident there's still some good bonuses out there. Of course its not as juicy as it once was.

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Youve missed the boat by at least 2 years, bonuses have become nearly unbeatable and no matter what you do they will figure out that you're a winning player and ban you fairly quickly, intercasino used to be handy money once a month so any month I was ahead I would play a few 100$ worth of a -EV game after completing the WR, I havent bothered doing a bonus anywhere since Intercasino went 50x for blackjack.

Basically I am sure they go along the same line as sportsbook firms - if your account is ahead you'll be banned eventually.

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Yeah, I'm guessing I missed the boat to a large degree, but 2 years ago I could play winning poker for a decent winrate!

From what I can see there are still plenty of very beatable bonuses about (I'm non US), maybe not as good as in the past. My biggest concern is if you get banned from one site on a network (microgaming, playtech etc) do you get insta-banned from them all? If not, then unless I am missing something, there are enough sites/bonuses out there to be earning $50 per hour part-time for a year or so.

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Youve missed the boat by at least 2 years, bonuses have become nearly unbeatable and no matter what you do they will figure out that you're a winning player and ban you fairly quickly, intercasino used to be handy money once a month so any month I was ahead I would play a few 100$ worth of a -EV game after completing the WR, I havent bothered doing a bonus anywhere since Intercasino went 50x for blackjack.

Basically I am sure they go along the same line as sportsbook firms - if your account is ahead you'll be banned eventually.

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You are right about bonuses getting worse but there are still many very good bonuses out there and many many many playable ones.

I've done dozens of casino bonuses and the worst problem has been cashout taking more than 4 days. with only one casino i've had to debate about terms&conditions.

If you follow the t&c you shouldn't and won't have any problems in 99% of the cases

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My biggest concern is if you get banned from one site on a network (microgaming, playtech etc) do you get insta-banned from them all?

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If a casino has the same software than the other it doesn't mean they are in the same network. There are several casino groups that use the same software but are in a different group. You can usually do only one per group but several per software type.

you can see the groups for example at beatingbonuses.com

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There are a few juicy boni leftin the beginning, but for everything else you need a big bankroll to handle the swings, atleast a few thousand US$! Then you need to bet big and bust often to make your +EV... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Also you get often problems with the middle/low reputation casinos, when they identify you as the dirty whore you are! Take a look at the forunelounge massacre or the latest rogues on casinomeister, all because they deny winners or advanced players their winnings/cashouts.

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Still plenty of EV available to non-US players. www.casinobonuspages.com is another useful site for bonus info. Good luck!

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The good old days are gone. I do about 6 monthlies now with an EV of about $300 per month. As each month goes by another one drops off. You should still be able to find loads of EV+ welcome bonuses though. Not so easy if you are US. Blame your President.

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GEEZ WHY DOES EVERYONE GOTTA BADMOUTH THE PRES? hes a wonderful man of integrity and principles. blame frist not him. i hear bush has played poker himself before.

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there are enough sites/bonuses out there to be earning $50 per hour part-time for a year or so.

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$50 per hour part time seems a bit rich, I calculated it to be more like $5 an hour playing blackjack.

Just wondering why so many people on here are saying it not do-able anymore. For non-us players at least the sites mentioned in this thread provide at least a few thousand dollars worth of signup bonuses, even the monthly reloads are a nice chunk of change.

Seems like there could also be a market for online blackjack calculators similar to the all the poker calculators out there. This could increase the hourly rate for those of us who dont know basic strategy and have to read the cards every time. Anyone know if this has been done?

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Bet $20 per hand instead of $1 and your hourly rate is 20 times higher. No need for a blackjack calculator as there are lots of very easy to follow charts, but then again people will buy anything if you package it up nicely.

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there are enough sites/bonuses out there to be earning $50 per hour part-time for a year or so.

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$50 per hour part time seems a bit rich, I calculated it to be more like $5 an hour playing blackjack.


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You're doing something wrong. I'm in the 4-figures an hour doing bonuses.

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The good old days are gone. I do about 6 monthlies now with an EV of about $300 per month. As each month goes by another one drops off. You should still be able to find loads of EV+ welcome bonuses though. Not so easy if you are US. Blame your President.

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What 6 monthlies do you do?

Also anyone else have some good monthlies?

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The good old days are gone. I do about 6 monthlies now with an EV of about $300 per month. As each month goes by another one drops off. You should still be able to find loads of EV+ welcome bonuses though. Not so easy if you are US. Blame your President.

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What 6 monthlies do you do?

Also anyone else have some good monthlies?

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If you are non US here are just a few of the regular reloads that are on offer out there RIGHT NOW (3CP=Three Card Poker):

Paddypowercasino.com
£50 ($100) Friday Weekly Bonus; play Texas Holdem Bonus/Texas Holdem Shootout; about £41.50 ($83) +ev
£75 ($150) Monthly Reload Bonus; play Texas Holdem Bonus/3CP; about £63 ($126) +ev

BetDirect.net
£25 ($50) Monthly Reload Bonus; Autoplay Blackjack [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]; about £19 ($38) +ev

Casino.virgingames.com
£50 ($100) Monday Weekly Reload Bonus; play Texas Holdem Bonus/3CP; about £40.70 ($81.40) +ev
£20 ($40) Friday Weekly Reload Bonus; play Texas Holdem Bonus/3CP; about £16 ($32) +ev
£75 ($150) Monthly Reload Bonus; play Texas Holdem Bonus/3CP; about £47 ($94) +ev

Bluesqcasino.com
£75 Monthly Reload; play Texas Holdem Bonus/3CP; about £60 ($120) +ev.

Total: $1163.60 +ev per month

Now also note, the casino's that I have listed above are also 'partner friendly'... meaning, that if you have a spouse (or a family member who trusts you), you are allowed to sign up a second (or third, or fourth...) account from the same address (have a different LEGITIMATE payment method and ID for each account).

So total earn based on two accounts each at just these four casinos equals:

$2327.20 +ev per month added to your poker bankroll


Let me also add, that these are just FOUR of many profitable casino's that I have named here. There are many more out there, but I haven't got a list of every single one just yet... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Plus, when you then throw in the sportsbook bonuses and poker room bonuses, bonus hunting/whoring is by no means dead... for non-us players that is (sorry US players [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] )


Sorry for ranting a bit in this post, but it is a little bit annoying when non-us gamblers are told by posters on this forum, that the ENTIRE online casino bonus whoring world as we know it, is completely over... you know, there IS an entire world (wide web) out there beyond the lovely shores of the US coastline... [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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some of us would appreciate it if ud come up with a list of US FRIENDLY casinos we could do the same at with the ev+ listed for them too. u not listing a single one essentially confirms its true for us players, they cant find a decent bonus worth playing.

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some of us would appreciate it if ud come up with a list of US FRIENDLY casinos we could do the same at with the ev+ listed for them too. u not listing a single one essentially confirms its true for us players, they cant find a decent bonus worth playing.

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My reply was meant for the OP (who is a non-us player).

Since I am from the UK, I honestly couldn't give you a list of US friendly places. If I could, I would... but I simply can't find a decent list of bonuses for US players.

Like I mentioned in my previous post... bonus whoring is great for non-us players right now... but not so much for US based players.

However, I will have a look around... as soon as I can find a few decent ones, I'll post them up in the format listed in my previous post...

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some of us would appreciate it if ud come up with a list of US FRIENDLY casinos we could do the same at with the ev+ listed for them too. u not listing a single one essentially confirms its true for us players, they cant find a decent bonus worth playing.

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www.beatingbonuses.com

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ur obviously to lazy to go thru that site and do the work for all of us to ELIMINATE ALL THE NON US CASINOS and only list the US ONES> and i dont wanna do all that work either. that why u decided to just spam this companys website instead of doing the work yourself. but i wish someone would do that work.

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you're an idiot, sevencard.

http://www.beatingbonuses.com/bestbonus.htm

click "USA?" to sort.

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SPAM

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no, it isn't. i am not affilated with the website at all.

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The good old days are gone. I do about 6 monthlies now with an EV of about $300 per month. As each month goes by another one drops off. You should still be able to find loads of EV+ welcome bonuses though. Not so easy if you are US. Blame your President.

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What 6 monthlies do you do?

Also anyone else have some good monthlies?

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If you are non US here are just a few of the regular reloads that are on offer out there RIGHT NOW (3CP=Three Card Poker):

Paddypowercasino.com
£50 ($100) Friday Weekly Bonus; play Texas Holdem Bonus/Texas Holdem Shootout; about £41.50 ($83) +ev
£75 ($150) Monthly Reload Bonus; play Texas Holdem Bonus/3CP; about £63 ($126) +ev

BetDirect.net
£25 ($50) Monthly Reload Bonus; Autoplay Blackjack [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]; about £19 ($38) +ev

Casino.virgingames.com
£50 ($100) Monday Weekly Reload Bonus; play Texas Holdem Bonus/3CP; about £40.70 ($81.40) +ev
£20 ($40) Friday Weekly Reload Bonus; play Texas Holdem Bonus/3CP; about £16 ($32) +ev
£75 ($150) Monthly Reload Bonus; play Texas Holdem Bonus/3CP; about £47 ($94) +ev

Bluesqcasino.com
£75 Monthly Reload; play Texas Holdem Bonus/3CP; about £60 ($120) +ev.

Total: $1163.60 +ev per month

Now also note, the casino's that I have listed above are also 'partner friendly'... meaning, that if you have a spouse (or a family member who trusts you), you are allowed to sign up a second (or third, or fourth...) account from the same address (have a different LEGITIMATE payment method and ID for each account).

So total earn based on two accounts each at just these four casinos equals:

$2327.20 +ev per month added to your poker bankroll


Let me also add, that these are just FOUR of many profitable casino's that I have named here. There are many more out there, but I haven't got a list of every single one just yet... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Plus, when you then throw in the sportsbook bonuses and poker room bonuses, bonus hunting/whoring is by no means dead... for non-us players that is (sorry US players [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] )


Sorry for ranting a bit in this post, but it is a little bit annoying when non-us gamblers are told by posters on this forum, that the ENTIRE online casino bonus whoring world as we know it, is completely over... you know, there IS an entire world (wide web) out there beyond the lovely shores of the US coastline... [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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Wow gr8 stuff thx!

Are all of these blackjack friendly? that is all i play at the moment.

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The good old days are gone. I do about 6 monthlies now with an EV of about $300 per month. As each month goes by another one drops off. You should still be able to find loads of EV+ welcome bonuses though. Not so easy if you are US. Blame your President.

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What 6 monthlies do you do?

Also anyone else have some good monthlies?

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If you are non US here are just a few of the regular reloads that are on offer out there RIGHT NOW (3CP=Three Card Poker):

Paddypowercasino.com
£50 ($100) Friday Weekly Bonus; play Texas Holdem Bonus/Texas Holdem Shootout; about £41.50 ($83) +ev
£75 ($150) Monthly Reload Bonus; play Texas Holdem Bonus/3CP; about £63 ($126) +ev

BetDirect.net
£25 ($50) Monthly Reload Bonus; Autoplay Blackjack [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]; about £19 ($38) +ev

Casino.virgingames.com
£50 ($100) Monday Weekly Reload Bonus; play Texas Holdem Bonus/3CP; about £40.70 ($81.40) +ev
£20 ($40) Friday Weekly Reload Bonus; play Texas Holdem Bonus/3CP; about £16 ($32) +ev
£75 ($150) Monthly Reload Bonus; play Texas Holdem Bonus/3CP; about £47 ($94) +ev

Bluesqcasino.com
£75 Monthly Reload; play Texas Holdem Bonus/3CP; about £60 ($120) +ev.

Total: $1163.60 +ev per month

Now also note, the casino's that I have listed above are also 'partner friendly'... meaning, that if you have a spouse (or a family member who trusts you), you are allowed to sign up a second (or third, or fourth...) account from the same address (have a different LEGITIMATE payment method and ID for each account).

So total earn based on two accounts each at just these four casinos equals:

$2327.20 +ev per month added to your poker bankroll


Let me also add, that these are just FOUR of many profitable casino's that I have named here. There are many more out there, but I haven't got a list of every single one just yet... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Plus, when you then throw in the sportsbook bonuses and poker room bonuses, bonus hunting/whoring is by no means dead... for non-us players that is (sorry US players [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] )


Sorry for ranting a bit in this post, but it is a little bit annoying when non-us gamblers are told by posters on this forum, that the ENTIRE online casino bonus whoring world as we know it, is completely over... you know, there IS an entire world (wide web) out there beyond the lovely shores of the US coastline... [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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Wow gr8 stuff thx!

Are all of these blackjack friendly? that is all i play at the moment.

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No... not all of them are blackjack friendly, although there are still plenty of blackjack offers out there. However, with blackjack friendly bonuses, the wagering requirements tend to be labourous. Still from time to time, PaddyPowerCasino do offer the occasional 38x bonus blackjack offer.

Thats the thing about casino offers, the game play requirements are always shifting and if you wish to stay profitable, you need to shift with them.

Right now, if you want to make good money, in addition to playing blackjack you need to also learn how to play Three Card Poker (very easy), Video Poker (relatively easy, especially for a poker player), and Texas Holdem Bonus/Shootout (very easy for any shorthanded limit holdem poker player). And in a years time or so, I am guessing these will change too...

You also need to take some time to understand the house advantage % and standard deviations of other games too (Casino War, Wan Doy, French roulette and so on), as well as take the time to find the correct strategy charts for blackjack games with differing rules.

As a general rule, no-one is going to spoon feed this information for you. However all the information is out there, ready to be found via a google search (www.WizardOfOdds.com is a great place to start).


To sum up, if you stick to just a basic blackjack strategy and do not branch out and research... you will be stuck on just a few hundred dollars of +ev a month. Do your research and you can look at a (relatively) easy $3,000-$4,000 a month from casino bonuses (much more if you pull out all the stops).

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Are all of these blackjack friendly? that is all i play at the moment.

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3CP means that you have to play Three Card Poker and not BJ.

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you're an idiot, sevencard.

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What kind of strategy are you using for the WagerWorks Texas Hold'em games (Bonus and Shootout)? I've been interested in bonuses with those games, but I've not been able to find a good discussion on optimal strategy.

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What kind of strategy are you using for the WagerWorks Texas Hold'em games (Bonus and Shootout)? I've been interested in bonuses with those games, but I've not been able to find a good discussion on optimal strategy.

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Texas Holdem Bonus:
Preflop... fold 23o, 24o, 25o, 26o and 27o. Bet everything else.
Postflop... bet any hand that gives you even the slightest +ev edge. If you have played plenty of shorthanded poker before, you won't go too far wrong. If you are still a little new to poker, then use a poker calculator to work out the edges.

Texas Holdem Shootout:
Use the general guide provided at paddypowercasino.com in their 'players club' section. However, their guide isn't extensive enough to be called optimal, so I would still recommend you use a poker calculator to work out your postflop edges.

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Texas Holdem Bonus:
Preflop... fold 23o, 24o, 25o, 26o and 27o. Bet everything else.
Postflop... bet any hand that gives you even the slightest +ev edge. If you have played plenty of shorthanded poker before, you won't go too far wrong. If you are still a little new to poker, then use a poker calculator to work out the edges.

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Hmm, how am I supposed to figure out what the dealer's range is to see if I'm "+ev" or not? If the dealer has any two cards, then I guess it just means checking if you don't have any pair or any draw or ace high?

The bonus bet is way -ev but you don't need to be a rocket scientist to see that (30x for aces? Heh).

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Texas Holdem Shootout:
Use the general guide provided at paddypowercasino.com in their 'players club' section. However, their guide isn't extensive enough to be called optimal, so I would still recommend you use a poker calculator to work out your postflop edges.

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And again, how am I supposed to figure out my edge if I can't see the opponents' cards? Or should I do something like pot odds and the odds I have of hitting a pair or a better hand after the flop?

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PokerStove.

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you're an idiot, sevencard.

http://www.beatingbonuses.com/bestbonus.htm

click "USA?" to sort.

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this thread is mostly full of people too stupid to do something as easy as bonus whoring.

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ur obviously to lazy to go thru that site and do the work for all of us to ELIMINATE ALL THE NON US CASINOS and only list the US ONES> and i dont wanna do all that work either. that why u decided to just spam this companys website instead of doing the work yourself. but i wish someone would do that work.

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is this a joke?

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about 12 hrs later i logged into that site, and yeah their USA page is pretty informative, but i dont have an eco card, i dont think click2pay still works to withdraw money back to ur bank, and without a few thousand in spending money im still not comfortable trying it. now if i could try it out with a few hundred only and not worry about maybe not having all my money trapped i might.

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this thread is mostly full of people too stupid to do something as easy as bonus whoring.

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LOL, that's so true.