what is the highest VPIP for a consistent winning player you\'ve seen?
 

Im talking about limit holdem. I see one guy on party who is 65% and plays every night and I'm sure he's a winning player although it is possible that he is lucky only when i'm at his table, I doubt it. I think he's a very good player.

Can someone tell me the origin of rickroll? I don't read the boards for a few weeks and when I come back, i get rickrolled 10 times already.

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"it is possible that he is lucky only when i'm at his table, I doubt it."

My name is Slim, and I am a fish ....

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Ive seen more than one person in the high 40s who I know crush the game.

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My name is Slim, and I am a fish ....

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obv you don't think it;s possible for someone to be 65%vpip and be a winner. So you don't believe in excellent post flop play i guess.

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"it is possible that he is lucky only when i'm at his table, I doubt it."

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obv you don't think it;s possible for someone to be 65%vpip and be a winner. So you don't believe in excellent post flop play i guess.

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I don't believe that you can empty the ocean with a paper cup either...

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1. You entirely missed the point of my post.
2. What I think is that you have the makings of a fish, if your worry is how this guy does, but not how he does when you are at the table.

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limit iz gay

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... leakage from NVG ?

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Pretty sure there are some decent winning players in the VP-100 range.
DUCY???

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Are you talking full table or 6-max? Huge difference.

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correct.

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Ive seen more than one person in the high 40s who I know crush the game.

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i really doubt this.
even for 6-max

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If you're bouncing around a lot of 6-max tables that are playing only 5-handed or 4-handed it isn't too difficult to imagine.
And it isn't hard to be 'stuck' on a table with only 4 or 5 players for a significant stretch.

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Are you talking full table or 6-max? Huge difference.

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true....i'm talking about 6max.

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Ive seen more than one person in the high 40s who I know crush the game.

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i really doubt this.
even for 6-max

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Why? This guy that I play against is mid 60 vpip and is there pretty well every nite for a months playing 15-30. He creates action at the table so I like playing at his table. From what I can tell , he is a solid player, very good at hand reading.

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1. You entirely missed the point of my post.
2. What I think is that you have the makings of a fish, if your worry is how this guy does, but not how he does when you are at the table.

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I'm not worried at all, I have him on my buddy list and always try to play at his table bc he creates action. Can you answer my question: DO you believe anyone can have a VPIP of 65% and be a long term winner?

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1. You entirely missed the point of my post.
2. What I think is that you have the makings of a fish, if your worry is how this guy does, but not how he does when you are at the table.

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I'm not worried at all, I have him on my buddy list and always try to play at his table bc he creates action. Can you answer my question: DO you believe anyone can have a VPIP of 65% and be a long term winner?

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There is not a chance in hell that this guy is a winner playing 65% of his hands. None. Zero. Nada.

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1. You entirely missed the point of my post.
2. What I think is that you have the makings of a fish, if your worry is how this guy does, but not how he does when you are at the table.

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I'm not worried at all, I have him on my buddy list and always try to play at his table bc he creates action. Can you answer my question: DO you believe anyone can have a VPIP of 65% and be a long term winner?

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There is not a chance in hell that this guy is a winner playing 65% of his hands. None. Zero. Nada.

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How many hands (sample size)would it take for you to consider it possible?

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and what do u think is the highest VPIP one can have and be a consitent winner at mid limit HE 6max.

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It's been a while since I've played limit, but isn't standard deviation something like 15-20 BB/ 100 hands? While not likely, it's hardly unusual for a -1BB/100 loser to break even or turn a small profit over a sample as large as 100,000 hands. So in short: more hands than you could possibly have datamined

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there was some guy on 2+2 who play $200NL, posted his stats, and he was something like 7PTBB/100 over 50,000 hands playing 60/20. don't remember who though.

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I'm not worried at all, I have him on my buddy list and always try to play at his table bc he creates action. Can you answer my question: DO you believe anyone can have a VPIP of 65% and be a long term winner?

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There is not a chance in hell that this guy is a winner playing 65% of his hands. None. Zero. Nada.

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How many hands (sample size)would it take for you to consider it possible?

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i'd be shocked if u could even find a 30K sample where this guy comes out in the black.

edit: but all that would do is shock me; as poster above pointed out, the # of hands you'd need for conclusive evidence of long-term winning is in the hundreds of thousands if not millions.

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Pretty sure there are some decent winning players in the VP-100 range.
DUCY???

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It's really hard to get above 85% or so, because you just get too many walks.

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I'm not worried at all, I have him on my buddy list and always try to play at his table bc he creates action. Can you answer my question: DO you believe anyone can have a VPIP of 65% and be a long term winner?

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There is not a chance in hell that this guy is a winner playing 65% of his hands. None. Zero. Nada.

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How many hands (sample size)would it take for you to consider it possible?

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i'd be shocked if u could even find a 30K sample where this guy comes out in the black.

edit: but all that would do is shock me; as poster above pointed out, the # of hands you'd need for conclusive evidence of long-term winning is in the hundreds of thousands if not millions.

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although theoretically this may be true, realistically, I think it would take much much less hands to convince me. I play with this guy almost everynite and its not like he had one or 2 huge nights and is losing otherwise. He consistently wins and by his post flop play, I think he is at the very least, a break even player.

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Why dont you just ask him what his winrate is

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Ive seen more than one person in the high 40s who I know crush the game.

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i really doubt this.
even for 6-max

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*shrug* It be the truth tho